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New-ish Player's Guide++

I did a guide a month ago for new players here, this guide is a continuation on that: https://www.reddit.com/EscapefromTarkov/comments/e9smrv/new_players_guide_extended/
If this is your first week, this games amazing and worth it. In the meantime read this guide to start:
https://www.reddit.com/EscapefromTarkov/comments/e515ub/influx_of_new_players_means_its_time_for_a_guide/
I wanted to do a follow up guide after doing ~30ish runs on each map this month to get the current meta of each and review various armors because I'm slightly bored after all the quests and max hideout is done but this game is just too addicting to stop playing. It also helps that I've had 8 friends buy the game in the last few weeks so this is easier than explaining to them one at a time. If anyone sees anything incorrect please feel free to correct me and if there's any other questions post in comments/pm me.

General Tips Continued:

Maps

TLDR: Shoreline for money, Interchange for consistency, Customs for quests, Factory/Labs for fights.I did a brief overview on money runs on various maps in my previous guide, but wanted to update those maps in light of recent changes to spawns and my experiences over the past month or so testing all the maps out. In profitability order:
Shoreline - With the new addition of 6-8 LedX spawns, shoreline has become king for money. It takes the high reward possibility of Labs and mixes it with the consistent loot value of Interchange with the only draw back being the need for keys, which I purchased for around 3-4 mil for all good loot rooms ( 15 keys in total). This is a steep investment, but it is a one time cost, and completely worth it. You can expect an LedX about 1/7 raids clearing most LedX rooms. I got 5/36 shoreline runs, clearing most rooms about 2/3rds of the time, dying or being beaten to the rooms in the other 1/3. Unlike labs, however, these are just the cherry on top of consistently amazing loot in the rooms with easy extracts to boot. The big draw back is popularity, I run into at least 2-3 PMCs at the resort, usually 4-5 with a duo or squad tossed in the mix. They're usually tier 3-4 geared (I go tier 5 but don't recommend that unless you're good with losing a mil to a lucky mosin shot) and have a bad habit of hiding in rooms and ambushing.
Interchange - For consistent mid value barter items, Interchange is your map. Nothing has changed from my original assessment, tldr version being run Oli shelves and the 3 tech stores next to it for about 500k-1 mil per extract, assuming you bring a decent bag and rig. This map has dropped in popularity with the Shoreline buff, but be on the look out for tier 5 geared PMCs doing their 100 Killa kills grind and the ever present extract campers.
Reserve - This map still has great high value drops, less frequent than Interchange but with higher average value and requiring less keys than Shoreline. The massive drawback here is extract difficulty. If you can afford it, para-cord with the ice-pick for the repel extract is recommended as you just have to ditch/bag chest armor and you're out. Losing a bag for the manhole has required many a painful pick and chose for me recently and the door just isn't consistent, sometimes the button will be pressed but its still locked, other times its just open. Its a fun PvP map, but for money its just not beating the two above.
Customs - This map just really isn't for money, its for quests. But with the addition of the new stashes spread throughout the map you can make decent money whilst running the quests. See my past guide/the link below for stash runs.
Factory - Wait, Factory over Labs? Customs over Labs? Yes, I'm getting to that. So why Factory? Because quick, hit and run style or longer scav pileup at a choke-point style runs can net you tons of experience along with a big stack of weapons and decent loot from scav pockets. Solos try the upper hallway office/breakable door, the bottom pipeline hallway curve, or extract choke-point. Duos and squads can hold down the shower doors with ease.
Labs - People who have read my previous guide might be surprise this is last. The issue with labs is its completely dependent on high level item spawn rates. Labs is my favorite map, I could write a lengthy separate post about everything labs. At the beginning of the wipe, labs was ludicrously OP. You could spawn in and expect a 1/3 chance of an LedX (2.5 mil at the time) along with 2-3 other 400k+ items spawning in each raid. This resulted in 10's of millions in profit. Then they released Shoreline LedX spawns and turned off labs LedX. The barrel spawn was completely dead (50+ runs and nothing) and the two other (at the time) known locations had maybe a 1/25 rate. You could expect maybe 1-2 other drops per raid and it was now crowded with PMCs. It was difficult to turn a profit doing geared runs, and I lost millions. Today its slightly better, there are 3 new LedX spawns and the barrel spawn has a 1/7-10 (still testing) rate but everything has plummeted in price (VPX is less than 200k now) and you can expect 3-6 tier 5 geared PMCs plus raiders to be skulking around. Great for fights, terrible for money. Though extracting will often bring huge rewards in gear alone in current state.
... - Feel like I'm forgetting one... Hmm... Nah they wouldn't put a thermal ridden snipe happy map in the game with no loot spawns and lots of annoying quests. (Don't @ me Woods fans)

Armor

TLDR: Highest level armor not worth, high level ammo makes everything vulnerable. Not doing the same tiers (see previous guide) but the actual armor level itself. For actual setups with armoweapons see my previous guide.

Does this mean you should never run good armor? No. What it means is you should be aware you are likely losing value/money by doing so at higher tiers. Better armor will help you survive more raids, help with quests, and is a sign of being a more established player. But you are trading a LOT more money for smaller advantages in return, making it hard to recommend the more expensive armors in the game to anyone who can't handle multiple instant deaths in a row losing 500k-1mil.

Links to helpful stuff and vids

Ammo Spreadsheet (focus on armor pen power above all): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_l-gYeSt2MqIw62EdMZt_wefG0yO9L7dTaRM74c2J1w/htmlview?sle=true
Best in Slot guide to weapon modding (Shout out to Virion this guide is amazing work) : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yHyVEVB5oN0qL_pR1qTNP1_ICmzJ3SCFJQNb6XDM_DQ/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true
Every map key guide (I used as a guide for Shoreline keys mostly): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzGsoK-dkkY&t=931s&ab_channel=Pestily
Shoreline LedX spawns (Note: he and Pestily have some different spawns, I check both): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndVWwscyJW4&t=112s&ab_channel=Piranha
Interchange Loot guide (I only focus on the 3 tech stores near Oli and Oli itself): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7GJnZLfczY&ab_channel=VoX_E
Customs Stash Run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7b7zVwN6wA&ab_channel=Pestily
How I learned Labs this patch:
See key guide lab section above.
The main spawns in the first part of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxUWWOj9R0U&t=758s
I used to combine a bunch of different videos but this guy does a solid job of getting all of them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTMKJvdDbxI&t=319s&ab_channel=AlekkerTv
Learn all the extracts before running the labs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyWCznHKugM

This guide was brought to you by: Tarkov 2020 Wait Times! Averaging 20 minutes or more per raid giving me plenty of down time to type it up! I joke but I really do hope they fix this soon, and to new players this is a very uncommon issue. BSG has never let us down before.
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Hide and Seek

An old friend of mine emailed this to me a while back with the subject line “Hide and Seek” and I’ve been hesitant to post it for reasons that should become obvious as you read it. That said, I feel that enough time has gone by for this to be safe so I’m going to post it here. The only edits I’ve made were swapping out names and formatting, otherwise it’s all exactly as he sent it.
T, if you’re reading this then message me. I want to know if you’re alright, and if you are I know you’ll be looking for this story to show up.
This is what the email said:
Rijento,
I’m writing this story because I feel like I need an outlet. I swear to god that you better actually check your email for once in your damn life!
Please…
As for if you actually are reading this, I want you to wait as long as your (admittedly) better judgment tells you to wait and then post this story online. I know it’s a bit vain, but I want people to know my story. Hell, it might be the last one I ever tell. Double hell, it might actually even help some poor soul out.
I’m going to disappear after sending this, hopefully the good kind of disappear and not the death kind. I know nobody but you is going to believe this story but damn if typing this out didn’t make my sorry ass feel better. You were right about that man, I’m sorry for giving you shit for writing so much…
This is the attached file. “Hide and Seek”:
Before I get in to the ‘hiding’ and ‘seeking’ I have a bit of a confession that needs to be made. I work as a transporter for a deep web black market site… I hope it doesn’t change your opinion of me too much, sorry for not telling you sooner.
I’m the guy they call when they get an order for something they can’t send through the mail. Guns and live animals are two good examples. You’d be pretty hyped to know how many rich assholes just order lions and tigers from the dark web.
For obvious reasons, I can’t go in to too much detail, I don’t want to make any dangerous enemies and even after this I still don’t want to lose my job. It’s a pretty sweet gig all things considered, all I have to do is pick up from the seller and deliver to the buyer. I can even choose what jobs I want to take, lets me cling to what little principles I still have. And I DO have principles. After a few years working for the site, my two rules were: no people and no crossing borders.
Anyways, I got into a bit of a bind with the cryptocurrency crash that happened early this year. The site mostly pays in Bitcoin and, well, I decided to let my wallet sit and grow. By the time I realized what happened, my savings were destroyed. Nobody expected it to crash that hard… And it probably wouldn’t have been as much of a problem if I hadn’t also gotten used to living a life full of the finer things. I didn’t really ‘save’ all that much to begin with either. So when my savings finally ran dry and the market was still down, I decided to… Lower my standards a bit and take a riskier, higher paying job.
Organ transport.
I haven’t done it before… I hadn’t been that broke in a long time. Organ jobs pay well too, and I figured I still wasn’t strictly breaking my ‘no people’ rule if it was just their organs. So, I hopped on the site and browsed through the pitiful number of requests in my area till I found what I was looking for. A rich buyer who: had shady connections, was in need of some organs, and lacked either the time or patience to wait for them to come legally. As far as these sort of requests went, this was pretty much the norm from what I’d heard. So I accepted the job and got an email with some additional details about the order: the customer needed two kidneys (which was what I was to transport) and a liver (which they had made a separate request for).
From what other people on the site have told me, what should have happened was the job would move to the ‘seeking seller’ section and I’d be on hold till someone… ‘_acquired_’ the kidneys.
What actually happened probably should have tipped me off to use my monthly free withdraw… I got a notification two hours later that there was a seller.
Rijento, I don’t know how much you know about medicine, but if you do know anything then you’re probably squirming in your own skin about right now. For those who may or may not be reading this that are not in the know, not only do the donor and receiver have to have compatible blood types but kidneys only last about a day outside of a warm body.
Not exactly a product you can stockpile.
I got another email, about the pickup this time, and began the internal debate between the bad feeling in my gut and my empty wallet… You can probably guess which one of them won out… Anyways, I planned my route; one hour to get to the seller and four hours to get from there to the buyer. I sent the site my plan and within minutes they approve of it and set up an actual meeting point. I sighed and grabbed my things, trying to swallow my nerves the entire hour it took me to reach the meeting point.
I sat down on a bench in a city park and waited for what seemed like ages before I felt someone staring at me. It took me a solid minute to pick out who it was even though there were only a few people around. He was sitting with his back to me at a picnic table about ten yards away from me and whenever I looked away I could feel his eyes on me. When we eventually did make eye-contact he bounced excitedly in his seat and waved me over; my heart sank as he also slid a small case into my line of sight.
I forced myself to smile, walked over, sat down, and hid my annoyance. Most of the buyers on the site were practically carbon copies of each other. Probably because you could only become a buyer if another buyer knew and endorsed you. The sellers, on the other hand, were all certifiably insane.
None of the other transporters I’d chatted with had ever met with a ‘normal’ seller. Because of this, all of them quickly learned to keep conversation to a minimum and to not under any circumstances piss any of them off. I decided to follow in their example.
The man sitting in front of me looked friendly enough, overly so if anything. He was scrawny, didn’t look like he would be strong enough to… well… kill someone and harvest their insides. He had a strange smile on his face, and even now I can’t get it out of my head. The kind of overly friendly, wide toothed smile that mothers warned their children to stay away from. It somehow managed to be both inviting and creepy at the same time.
I smiled back and spoke up, “So you’re the seller then?” I asked, and the man nodded.
He nodded and responded in a sickeningly sweet voice… He sounded like a child in a toy store, his voice strained with excitement and wonder as he droned on to his parents about what toys he wanted.
“Oh I’m so glad you found me. For a minute there I thought I’d have to call ‘olly olly oxen free.’” He said with a pleased sigh, pushing the case to my side of the table. “You know… Over the years I’ve gotten quite good at playing hide and seek. So good, in fact, that I’ve never been found. Not. Even. Once. Do you want to know my secret?” the man asked, his voice still just as unsettlingly sweet as his smile.
“Sure, what’s your secret?” I asked. I really, really didn’t want to know what the hell he was talking about; but if it kept him happy then…
He clapped rapidly and bounced in place, “Oh I’m so glad that you’re a curious one. My secret is that the seekers never know that they’re playing.”
“Makes sense…” I said, opening the case momentarily to verify. Two kidneys in pristine condition, doused with preserving fluid, wrapped in plastic. and packed in ice. “If the seeker doesn’t know they’re playing then how would they know to start looking?” I said, leaving out the fact that it would just be stalking at that point before swallowing hard when I thought about where these kidneys came from.
“You’re a smart one…” he said with a smile as I sent a message confirming the pickup. All that was left was to wait for the transaction to process. “I was worried about this last one though… she came right up to me. This. Close.” he said, leaning in till our faces almost touched.
I struggled to keep my composure, and managed to keep from jumping or pushing him away. “So what did you do?” I asked as he leaned back, my suspicions about these kidneys being all but confirmed.
“Why, nothing of course…” He said, a slightly bewildered expression on his face. He looked as though I just asked him how to breathe. I glanced down at my phone to see if the transaction had been verified yet and he snapped his fingers like he remembered something. “Oh I must apologize!” he said, making me look up, “I forgot that you don’t play much… I simply held my breath, closed my eyes, and wished that she would just… go away.”
“You’re right… You are good at hide and seek...” I said, wishing to myself that he would just go away and hearing the familiar ding of a successful transaction sound on both of our phones as if to answer my prayers. I reached out my hand as a formality and he grabbed it and shook it vigorously. I forced a smile and stood, although what he said next made my blood nearly freeze.
“You’re the first person to find me in oh so long…” He trailed off as he said it, his voice slowly shifting from that of an exited child to the cold blooded maniac that he was. “Maybe my games won’t be so one sided from now on,” He said, his voice disturbingly normal. Although, even without looking back I could tell that the same sickeningly sweet smile was glued to his face. I kept walking but waved my arm as though saying goodbye.
The worst part was that I could feel him watching me as I walked back to my car… Not just at first, like if he was watching me leave, but the entire way back, and even as I got in my car. I took a moment to look around and sighed as I saw nothing. It might not sound like much to you. I don’t know, I can still hardly describe it myself, but he had this… creepy way of getting under your skin just by talking to you.
I wrote it off as me just being paranoid, the guy harvests organs from people for a living so of course everything he says is creepy. I groaned and started my car, but it wasn’t until I hit the freeway that I was finally able to shake the feeling of his gaze. It’s not like he could’ve been following me, by then I was already paranoid enough to be checking for that, making a few detours just to be sure of it.
And because of my detours, I ended up being about an hour past the scheduled drop off with the buyer… Lost my chance at a tip for sure, guy was furious and there was nothing I could tell him to calm him down. I’m pretty sure, ‘sorry I’m late, but the seller was a total psycho and I wanted to make sure he wasn’t following me,’ wouldn’t have been a very good excuse.
Whatever, I had my money and the buyer had his organs and plenty of time for whatever operation that used them. Not much to complain about on either side, well except for the fact that I already knew I wouldn’t be sleeping that night. Especially because the feeling of being watched had returned as soon as I set foot out of my car which was, again, impossible. The site never tells the sellers anything about the buyers or transporters, so there’s no way he could have known where I was headed to and no way that he could have followed me.
I hopped back in my car and started to head for home, hoping that a few tabs of melatonin would be enough for at least a few hours of sleep. And again, I could feel eyes on me as I drove and I saw his eerie smile everywhere until I hit the highway. I felt a weight lift off of my shoulders then, although I made sure to take the most winding path home that I could afford gas for (which was quite a bit after a job like that). By the time I did get home it was starting to get dark, and I had made a few loops around my apartment just to be sure I didn’t still feel his eyes on me.
Luckily, my apartment building has a public parking garage attached to it so even if I was being followed I felt safe enough that nobody would be able to find my room. But Just to be sure, I took the stairs for the first time in months.
Have any of you ever climbed seven flights of stairs out of paranoia before Rijento? Well in case you haven’t let me tell you what it’s like. Do you remember running up the stairs from the basement after turning off the lights as a kid? That feeling of unease and terror? Well it’s like that, but you aren’t a kid anymore. It’s not the dark or what imaginary monsters could be lurking in it that frightens you anymore. Instead, you’re worried about who could be hiding in the darkness, what real monster could be following you up those stairs… I’m no slouch when it comes to exercise but it still drained everything out of me hauling my body up those stairs on my hands and feet like an animal as fast as I could.
I got inside and locked the door securely behind me, panting, covered in sweat, but I sighed in relief with the fact that I hadn’t felt anyone watching me at all during my climb. I took a moment to catch my breath, slumping down by the door and chuckling to myself while shaking my head. I couldn’t believe that I’d let that freak get so deep under my skin.
Once I had caught my breath, I stood up and made my way to my couch before flopping onto it. I wanted nothing more than to go to sleep then and there, but I had to be smart with my money this time. I immediately cashed the Bitcoin out. Better to pay myself out in small increments, but I had bills to pay and I’d already learned my lesson about leaving things in Bitcoin.
Once business was taken care of, I grabbed the remote control and flicked on the TV. The familiar faces of the local news anchors greeted me and I began drifting off to sleep while listening to the happenings of our city.
It was around seven a.m. when I was woken up by the sound of the ‘breaking news’ alert coming on.
“We are just receiving reports of a ghastly murder of one [yeah, I’m not gonna put her name or age here] year old college student living on her own. Police investigators say that several of her organs were found to be missing and that they found evidence of someone living in her home without her knowledge for quite some time before the murder…”
The reporters kept talking about how much of a tragedy the situation was… But I wasn’t listening. How could I listen…
I’ve never been less happy to be right then I was at that moment. I shuddered thinking about it. My thoughts and paranoia regarding the man I’d met the other day bubbling back up to the surface. It was then that the reality of what I’d done hit me like a freight train. By accepting that contract I doomed that girl to die… All because I needed some quick cash.
I stood up and went to the kitchen and opened my liquor cabinet. Without looking, I grabbed a bottle of something with shaking hands and fumbled with the top while trying to keep my mind clear of thoughts. Once I had the cap off I took several deep swigs from the bottle, spilling quite a bit down my chin before I set it down and gasped for air.
The burn of the alcohol in my throat gave me something to focus on while it worked its magic on the rest of my body. As my mind slowly clouded I found my way to a chair and found it easier to think about what happened without panicking.
My first thought was that I needed to do something. I knew the guy’s face, I should go to the cops! It was at this moment that the… Less impulsive side of my brain kicked in. I go to the cops and all I do is give myself a one way ticket to an early grave. My employers don’t take kindly to police interactions.
I slowly resigned myself to the fact that I was going to have to live with the consequences of this job for the rest of my life… I’m a coward, I know.
Anyways, the next few days passed by slowly. I was… Not in a good place mentally and I’m sure you remember how much alcohol my cabinets were stocked with. I blacked out more than once only to wake up gasping for breath from drinking too much. It was honestly a miracle that I didn’t kill myself through alcohol poisoning.
But I… Managed to come to terms with everything. Don’t get me wrong, I still had nightmares where I was the guy hiding in that girls closet… But I wasn’t drinking my problems away anymore, although I think that was more because of the fact that I’d run out of liquor than any meaningful character development.
It was about a week later that I was able to get my first night of actual sleep. I didn’t dream about anything either so that was a plus. I know it probably sounds bad, but I was starting to feel normal again… Like I could maybe find a way to just be myself…
Either way, even after all that I still wanted to keep my job. I just added a new rule: no organs.
From there I fell back into more or less my old routine. I went to eat out almost every day though, I thought any excuse that got me cleaned up and out of my place was worth taking…
And then, I began to feel it again. That skin-crawling sensation of eyes on me from somewhere that I felt the day I met Mr. Hide&Seek. I didn’t think much of it at first, I only felt the eyes when I was surrounded by other people so of course one or two would be looking my way right? I thought I was just guilty and paranoid.
But no matter what I did, I would always feel like I was being watched whenever other people were around. So I started driving more and more and eating out less and less. Not driving anywhere in particular, just driving… I felt safe on the open road, I couldn’t feel any eyes on me… For about a week.
It started small. A shiver down my spine here and there. A sharp sensation that made my eyes snap to one car or another. Then it came more frequently, and I began to get more and more paranoid as the feeling became stronger and stronger.
I started driving less and less, and whenever I did, I kept my eyes on the cars around me. Trying desperately to find where that feeling was coming from. To find who was watching me… Trying to catch a glimpse of his face in a passing car.
I even thought I did see him a few times… Except that was just paranoia… I hope.
Eventually, I stopped driving unless I had to. I shut myself in my apartment, only going out to get groceries and always, always making sure that I didn’t feel anyone watching me before I parked. But that feeling would always find me whenever I went out.
This went on for about a month. I started to drink again, I didn’t go out to eat or drive anymore. I paid someone to deliver my groceries to the garage of my building. All I did was eat, sleep, drink, and watch movies or play games… I’d be living the dream, if I didn’t think a serial killer was stalking me.
Part of me believed that I was just being paranoid and to be honest I desperately wanted to believe that part of me… But not enough to stake my life on it. And after another week of living like a shut-in the feeling of being watched started to re-surface.
Like before it started off small. I felt a ping of eyes on me and from then on I kept the blinds securely closed. Even then, the feeling persisted for days, gradually gathering in strength. So I emptied out all of my closets and cabinets daily… Eventually I just left all of the doors open and everything on the floor so that I could look in to any hiding spot in an instant…
But that feeling still persisted.
I stopped drinking because I was terrified of being attacked. I started sleeping less and less and when I had to sleep, I slept inside of my closet and barred the doors shut from the inside. I ate and drank only when I felt hungry and always with my back to a corner of the room or locked in my closet… But I could still feel eyes on me, feel His eyes on me the same way I had back at the park.
It was about a month later when I finally discovered my haven. The one place left that I didn’t feel watched. The stairwell of my building. I found that whenever I went down and back up the stars to get my groceries – as I’d long since stopped using the elevator – that I would have a brief respite from the feeling of being watched.
I started to spend all of my waking hours there, sat on one of the stairs without a care in the world. I only left them to eat and sleep and whenever I entered the building proper I would feel eyes on me almost immediately. But having those stairs to return to made my life almost bearable. It had been a long time since I had anywhere I felt safe, and like every place before it I kept waiting form the feeling of being watched to follow me into the stairwell…
But it never did.
For another month, I fell into a somewhat bearable rhythm. I’d wake up in my closet feeling watched, I’d eat in the corner of my kitchen feeling watched, and then I’d scurry off to the stairwell where I could blessedly feel alone – Especially near the top floors where the stairs were seldom used.
But all good things must come to an end and all that, and while I never did feel watched in the stairs, I did run out of money. Apartments and cars don’t pay for themselves after all, and while I managed a few months on the blood money from my last job it was finally time to get back to work.
In the months since I last logged on to the site, things had calmed down significantly and there were now plenty of jobs that didn’t break any of my rules… So I decided to go with a route that I’d done before a couple of times. A gun run. The seller always treated me to a drink or two at his bar and was also always well armed so I felt that it would be a nice and easy job that I could feel safe doing.
After confirming the job I closed my laptop, pulled on a fresh set of clothing, and headed out the door. I wanted to get this over and done with, and thankfully the feeling of being watched was rather light that day. I do admit, however, that I lingered in the stairwell for a bit before heading out. I wanted a bit of time alone before being out in the open for the first time in months.
Anyways, I hopped in my car after about thirty minutes of blessed stairwell time and headed to the bar. After about two hours of paranoid and twisting driving I managed to make it just on time and pulled my car into the alleyway behind the bar.
The owner greeted me with a smile as I got out of my car, “T, long time no see!” he said, his smile fading as I walked up and he got a better look at me. “Holy shit man, are you feeling okay?” he asked, genuine worry in the eyes of the large man.
“No… I’m pretty far from okay…” I said with an exhausted sigh. I could still feel the faintest hint of eyes on me even now, though I know that the owner wouldn’t let me be jumped at his bar. “It’s a long story,” I offered, realizing for the first time that it might be nice to actually tell someone what happened.
“Is that so.” he said with a hint of a smile and a shake of his head. “Well, hows about we get you a drink while the boys get ready to load up your car.” He offered in return, making me smile. “There’s always plenty of time for stories at my bar.” He said proudly.
“I’d like that…” I said with another exhausted sigh, managing to keep the smile up as he put an arm around me and lead me in the back door of the bar.
“Oh, by the way, how did you hold up during the bitcoin crash? I heard it hit a couple of transporters pretty hard.” he said, making me chuckle as we made our way through the kitchen.
“Funny you should mention that,” I said, making him raise an eyebrow, “because that’s how my long story star—” I began, only to stop short when I looked at the bar.
HE was siting there, sipping on a beer without a care in the world. He noticed me out of the corner of his eye and that same sickeningly sweet smile crept onto his face as his eyes met mine.
I froze. There was no way that this was a coincidence. There was no way that he just happened to be at this bar at this time.
I was broken from my trance by the bar owner waving his hand in front of my face and saying my name, “Hello? T, you alright?”
I quickly ducked back into the kitchen and started to hyperventilate. How did he know? How could he possibly have known that I would be here? Did he follow me?
“Did who follow you?” The owner’s voice brought me back to reality once again as I realized I’d been thinking out loud. His face was concerned, bordering on scared.
“How long has that guy been at the bar?” I asked, hoping that the owner knew who I was talking about.
“If you mean tall, thin, and creepy then about an hour… What is going on T?” He asked, as I slumped against the wall.
I started crying. I broke down and burst back into the bar only to see that Mr. Hide&Seek he was already gone. “I… I need to go. I need to get home!” I said, pushing past the owner and running to my car. He called after me, trying to get me to stay and explain what the hell was happening but I wasn’t listening. For all I know, Mr. Hide&Seek could be breaking in to my apartment already.
I drove straight home and threw open the door to my apartment. It had still been locked, but I wasn’t taking any chances. I grabbed a knife from the kitchen and checked everywhere. But he wasn’t there.
Then, my phone rang and scared the living hell out of me. I checked the number and gulped when I saw that it was blocked. I considered not answering but in the end I picked up the call.
“H-Hello?” I asked tentatively.
“T… What the hell happened at the bar?” a modulated voice rang through the speaker in my ear, making me wince. It was one of the site admins for sure.
I was silent for a moment before telling the admin everything. I couldn’t see the man, but I could feel a sudden change when I mentioned seeing Mr. Hide&Seek at the bar.
“T,” the admin began, a serious edge to his voice. “I need you to log in to the site… _Now_” he said, and something in me told me to listen. I booted up my laptop and hopped on to the site. As soon as I logged in a dialog appeared that I’d never seen before.
ADMIN would like to take control of this computer. Do you consent to this?’ With two buttons. One for yes. One for no.
I clicked yes and watched as my cursor began to move on it’s own. “Thank you T. This will only take a moment…” the admin said, a practiced calm in his voice as he downloaded several files and began to do… Something on my laptop.
A minute later a dialog box popped up that said, ‘Threat detected!’ and the admin sighed and his voice sharpened as he spoke. “T… You’ve been compromised. You’ve had a nasty piece of spyware installed on your machine, for about a month by the looks of things. It’s been recording your keystrokes and giving someone remote access to your camera…” the admin explained, making me gulp as I realized that all of my information was insecure.
“B-but, there’s no way! I haven’t download anything!” I said, making the admin mutter something as a bout of typing could be heard coming through the phone.
The admin’s voice was cold and calculated when he spoke next. “No… No you didn’t…” he said, making me gulp. “This software was installed via _USB_…” the admin said, making my heart nearly stop.
Hide&Seek had been in my home! He had been here without me noticing and put that program on my laptop. Even after all of my paranoia, he still found his way into my room without me knowing.
“I’m going to delete the program,” the admin said, and a few keystrokes later, “done… What the—”
As the admin deleted the program, thousands of windows began popping up on the screen of my laptop. All of them saying the same thing…
‘olly olly oxen free’
After that, I threw my laptop in the trash and got a new one as well as a new phone, sim card and all. I was taking no chances. I got all new accounts for everything and the admin told me he revoked Mr. Hide&Seek’s membership personally.
But I’m going to disappear all the same, I have a plane ticket to somewhere and my bags are already packed.
Don’t look for me, and if you ever start to feel like you’re being watched… It’s because you are.
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I earned about 4000% more btc with my android tablet than with a $250 ASIC mini rig setup using GekkoScience Newpac USB miners!

Requirements:
1.) Android Device with access to Google Play Store. *I haven't tried yet but you may be able to use tis on Android TV devces as well by sideloading. If anyone has success before I try, let me know! -Note, I did this with a Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 so its a newer more powerful device. If your android is older, your profts will most likely be less than what I earned but to give a projected range I also tested on my Raspberry Pi 4 running a custom LineageOS rom that doesn't allow the OS to make full use of the Pi's specs and I still got 500 h/s on that with Cloud boost, so about 60% of what my Tab 6 with MUCH Higher Specs does.
**Hey guys. Before I get started i just wanted to be clear about one thing. Yes I have seen those scammy posts sharing "miracle" boosts and fixes. I have a hard time believing stuff online anymore. But this is honestly real. Ill attach photos and explain the whole story and process below. Thanks for taking the time to read and feel free to share any thoughts, concerns, tips, etc*
So last week I finally got started with my first mini rig type mining build. I started getting into crypto about a year ago and it has taken me a long time to even grasp half of the projects out there but its been fun thus far! Anyways my rig was 2 GekkoScience Newpac USB miners, a Moonlander USB miner to pair with an FPGA i already had mining, a 10 port 60W 3.0 USB hub and 2 usb fans. The Newpacs actually are hashing at a combined 280 g/s which is actually better than their reported max hash rate when overclocked. Pleasant surpise and they are simple!! I just wanted to get a moonlander because my fpga already mines on Odocrypt for DGB and I just wanted to experience Scrypt mining and help build the DGB project. The Newpacs are mining BTC though.
After I got everything up and running i checked my payout daily average after 1 week. I averaged .01 a day TOTAL between all three miners with them all perforing ABOVE SPEC!!! I had done research so i knew I wouldnt earn much. More than anything i just wanted to learn. But still. I was kinda surprised in a negative way. Yesterday I actually earned less than .01 Frustrated I went back to scouring the web for new ideas. About a year ago, when II was starting, I saw an app on my iphone called CryptoBrowser that claimed to mine btc on your phone without actually using phone resources using a method of cloud mining. I tried it for a week and quit because I earned like .03 after a ton of use and seemed scammy. Plus my iphone actually would get very hot when doing this so I quit using it as it seemed like a possible scam with all the cryptonight browser mining hacks and malware out there.
Anyways I was on my Galaxy Tab S6 and saw that CryptoBrowser released a "PRO" edition for 3.99 on Google Play. I bought it for Sh*ts and giggles and booted it up. It came with what they called "Cloud Boost" Essentially this is a button you press and it multiplys the estimated hashrate that it gives you device by the number shown on the boost button. (With the purchase of PRO you get one free x10 boost. You can purchase additional boosts to use with other android devices but those are actually pretty pricy. Another x10 boost was like $25 if i remember correctly).
I played with it for about an hour to see if it actually worked like it said it would this time. To my surprise, as i was browsing, my device didnt increase in temperature AT ALL!!!!! I checked my tast manager to confirm and it was indeed true, my memory and usage barely went up. it was giving me an estimated range of 80-105 on the hashrate. Once i pushed the x10 boost button, that went to 800-1150 h/s. I switched my screen to not go to sleep, plugged it to the charge and let it run on the browser page, hashing. When you push the boost button, it runs for 3 hours at the boosted speeds. After that it goes back to normal but if you press the button again, it boosts everything again. There is no limit to how many times you use it. After checking what I earned after 24 hours, I HAD MADE .40 in BTC!!!!! I JUST EARNED OVER 4000% MORE THAN MY $280 MINING RIG EARNED ME!!!! I was blown away. Maybe this was a fluke? I did it again next day. Every 3 hours or so I would push the button again but thats all. Sure enough, .35 that day. Also, it realy BTC. I requested a payout and although it took like 12 hours for them to send me an email stating they had just sent it, I actually did recieve the state amount of BTC within 24 hours in my personal wallet. The fees to send are SUPER LOW!. Like .01
Below I will list the steps I took, along with an explanation of thier "Mining" process on Androids. Reminder, this ONLY WORKS ON ANDROIDS. Also DO NOT use cryptobrowser on a physcal laptop or desktop. I ran it on an old laptop for three days last year and it fried it. It does actually use your hardware on those platforms to mine and it is not efficnet at all as I suspect they prob steal over half of your power for themselves using the REAL RandomX protocol via browser mining which is EXTREMELY INEFFICIENT DONT TRY IT!!
-----How To Do This Yourself:
Cryptotab Browser states the program works on Android devices by estimating what it thinks the hashrate would be for your device specs and siimulates what you would mine in a remote server however you still earn that estimated coin amount. It is not a SHA-256 process or coin that they say is mining, rather it is XMR and they swap that and pay it out to you in BTC Bitcoin. However I know damn well my Tab S6 doesnt hash 80-105 h/s on RandomX because I have done it with a moodified XMRig module i ported to Android. I got 5 h/s a sec if I was getting any hashes at all. But thats besides the point as I still was making money.
Now, when you press that cloud boost button it immediately boosts that hash rate it estimates by the number on the cloud boost. As stated above, you can purchase more boosts and gift them or use them on extra android devices that you may have. Again, they are pricey so I'm not doing that plus it would just mean that I have another device that I have to leave on and open. The boosts come in x2, x4, x6, x8 and x10 variants. Again, they have unlimited uses.
Here is the link to grab yourself CryptoBrowser Pro from CryptoTab. This IS A REFERRAL LINK! This is where I benefit from doing tis tutorial. Like i said, I want to be transparent as this is not a scam but I'm also not doing this out of the love of my heart. Their referral system works in that people that use the donwload the app using your link are your stage 1 referrals. Anytime they are mining, you earn a 15% bonus. So say they mine $.30 one day. You would get paid out an additional $.045 in your own balance (it does not come out of the referred user balance fyi so no worries). Then lets say that referred miner also gets their own referrals. I would get a 10% bonus on whatever THOSE people mine. This goes on and on for like 8 tiers. Each tier the bonus percntage essential halves. So again, I stand to benefit from this but it also is stupid to not make this visible as its WAY CHEAPER, EASIER AND MORE PROFITABLE TO GET BTC USING THIS METHOD THAN IT IS USING ASICS!! THIS EARNS ALMOST AS MUCH BTC AS AN ANTMINER S7 DOES RUNNING 24/7 ONLY WITHOUT THE HUGE ELLECTRICTY BILL AND COSTS!!!!)
Thats it. Again, if you have concerns, let me know or if you have suggestions, other tips, etc... mention those as well!!!
https://cryptotabbrowser.com/8557319
Links to Picture Proof http://imgur.com/gallery/P13bEsB
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IPVanish Review - Why its a great VPN

IPVanish is a popular VPN service particularly with Android and Fire TV Stick users, and it makes a very strong claim on its homepage – that it’s the “World’s Best VPN.”
Seen this sort of statement before, right? It’s certainly one of the leading VPN providers out there, but is it really the best VPN overall?
We never take a provider’s word for it, so we decided to put IPVanish to the test – a very extensive one – to see if its claims are to be believed.
We were particularly keen to find out:
How good is IPVanish? Is it safe to use? Is IPVanish very fast? Does it work with Netflix? Is torrenting and P2P allowed? Is it the best VPN app for Firestick? But before we answer each of these (and many more) questions, lets see the pros and cons of IPVanish VPN:
Pros Cons Very impressive speeds Works with Netflix Great for torrenting & Kodi No-logs policy & no IP/DNS/WebRTC leaks User-friendly apps for PC, Mac, iOS, & Android Good server network across 50 countries Won't work with BBC iPlayer, or in China Short refund period Based in privacy-unfriendly US Desktop app could be more user-friendly Works with
Netflix, HBO, Torrenting, Kodi
Available on
Windows Mac Ios Android Linux Price from
$4.87/mo
As you can see IPVanish certainly does have many strengths to shout about.
It’s now time to take a very close look at the attributes and features of each IPVanish app, starting with how fast it is.
Speed & Reliability IPVanish is a consistently fast VPN
IPVanish is a very fast VPN service, with some of the quickest speeds we’ve seen in our tests.
IPVanish didn’t slow down our connection too much, and it is more than fast enough for HD or 4K streaming.
Speed results from our physical location in London (100Mbps fibre optic connection) to a London test server.
Before using IPVanish:
DOWNLOAD Mbps 93.76
UPLOAD Mbps 97.58
PING ms 2
When connected to IPVanish:
DOWNLOAD Mbps 84.13
UPLOAD Mbps 90.33
PING ms 7
Download speed without IPVanish: 93.76Mbps
Download speed with IPVanish: 84.13Mbps
Our download speed loss when IPVanish is running: 10%
Downloads, uploads and latency when using IPVanish are among the best we’ve seen, making this VPN a very smart choice for gamers and torrenters alike.
It’s also one of the most reliable VPN services we’ve seen, providing consistently fast speeds from one test to the next.
Here are the average speeds you can expect when using IPVanish to connect out to various locations around the world (from the UK):
USA: 53Mbps (download) & 37Mbps (upload) Germany: 76Mbps (download) & 81Mbps (upload) Singapore: 25Mbps (download) & 2Mbps (upload) Australia: 24Mbps (download) & 6Mbps (upload) Server Locations Over 40,000 IP addresses across 77 locations
Globe with a blue flag 50 Countries Image of a city landscape 77 Cities Image of a pink marker 40,000+ IP Addresses See all Server Locations IPVanish VPN gives access to more than 1,300 servers worldwide and over 40,000 IP addresses, which is one of the highest numbers of IP addresses we’ve ever seen. This means that you’re unlikely to experience VPN server congestion and slow speeds while connected to IPVanish.
The 50 countries in IPVanish’s VPN server network are well spread-out, including some less common nations like Moldova and the Philippines (in addition to all the typical countries like US, UK, Canada, Australia, and more).
List of IPVanish server locations
IPVanish provides its customers with city-level options in the US (19 cities), UK (4), Canada (3) Australia (2) and Brazil (2).
US-based users can choose from IPVanish servers in:
Central – Chicago, Dallas, Denver, Houston, Jackson, Milwaukee, St. Louis East – Ashburn, Atlanta, Boston, Cleveland, Miami, New York West – Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Salt Lake City, San Jose, Seattle We’d love to see more city-level selections in Australia – mainly Perth which is located on the West coast – and more server options in South America, where only Brazil and Colombia are served.
The high number of VPN servers in IPVanish’s network is enough to offset these minor complaints, though.
IPVanish is one of the few VPN providers to own its entire (or very close to) server infrastructure, meaning they rent very few servers from third-parties.
Streaming & Torrenting Excellent choice for torrenting & Netflix
Despite IPVanish being one of the fastest VPNs we’ve seen, it’s just not a great VPN for streaming.
Most of IPVanish’s US servers work for Netflix, although it can occasionally take a while to load, but all of its UK servers are currently blocked by BBC iPlayer and according to IPVanish they are not looking to work on fixing this.
If streaming BBC iPlayer is important to you, read through our dedicated guide or take a look at our NordVPN or CyberGhost reviews, two VPN services that work well with BBC iPlayer.
IPVanish has also confirmed it isn’t working with Amazon Prime Video or Hulu at the moment.
Torrenting IPVanish is, however, one of the best VPN services for torrenting we’ve tested, with very fast speeds and a watertight logging policy.
Torrenting is permitted on all of its servers and when we checked for IP/DNS leaks, we found none.
Not to mention that it has a VPN kill switch, but more on this below.
Therefore, we recommend IPVanish VPN for all P2P activity including Kodi for which IPVanish is currently the #1 VPN service.
Bypassing Censorship No good for China
IPVanish is very upfront in saying that the VPN service won’t work in China, despite being equipped with an array of obfuscation tools.
We really appreciate IPVanish’s honesty on this topic. IPVanish also provides a useful list of other countries the VPN won’t work in: you can find this on the support section of the IPVanish website.
List of IPVanish banned countries
IPVanish states that it is “forbidden to do business in”:
Myanmar Cuba Iran North Korea Sudan Syria IPVanish states that its domain, ipvanish.com, is blocked in:
Qatar Saudi Arabia United Arab Emirates (UAE) China Kazakhstan It’s not just IPVanish’s domain that is blocked in these countries, and many users have reported that IPVanish’s apps don’t work either.
If you live or are travelling to a high censorship country then we suggest you consider using VPN services like ExpressVPN or VyprVPN to bypass aggressive internet censors.
Platforms & Devices Works with all major platforms & devices
Apps Windows Logo Windows Mac Logo Mac iOS Logo iOS Android Logo Android Linux Logo Linux Router Logo Router IPVanish has custom VPN apps for all popular mobile and desktop operating systems so you can use them on:
PCs Apple Macs iPhones Android devices You can also setup IPVanish on other devices using manual workarounds (see the ‘Games Consoles & Streaming Devices’ section below).
Games Consoles & Streaming Devices AppleTV Logo AppleTV Amazon Fire TV Logo Amazon Fire TV Chromecast Logo Chromecast Nintendo Logo Nintendo PlayStation Logo PlayStation Roku Logo Roku Xbox Logo Xbox IPVanish is a good VPN to use with gaming consoles and streaming devices.
IPVanish is our number 1 VPN pick for the increasingly popular Amazon Firestick, and it’s super easy to install and use.
You can also use IPVanish on 10 devices at once, which is very generous (the average among the top VPN services is about 5 simultaneous connections).
You can also install IPVanish on your home router so that all your internet traffic at home is protected.
Browser Extensions Unfortunately, IPVanish doesn’t have any VPN browser extensions, which is a shame and one of the very few areas where it seriously lags behind its competitors.
If you want to use a VPN extension with your web browser then take a look at our:
Best VPN extensions for Chrome Best VPN addons for Firefox Encryption & Security One of the safest providers we’ve reviewed
Protocol IKEv2/IPSec
L2TP/IPSec
OpenVPN (TCP/UDP)
PPTP
Encryption AES-256
Security DNS Leak Blocking
First-party DNS
IPV6 Leak Blocking
Supports TCP Port 443
VPN Kill Switch
Advanced features SOCKS
Please see our VPN Glossary if these terms confuse you and would like to learn more.
We believe that IPVanish is one of the most secure and private VPN services available.
IPVanish mainly uses the OpenVPN and IKEv2 protocols and encrypts your online traffic with the ‘unbreakable’ AES-256 cipher, meaning you’re protected at all times. You can also connect using L2TP/IPsec, if you’d prefer.
IPVanish has a VPN kill switch to protect your privacy in case of a connection drop, plus a host of other advanced features to secure your web browsing. This includes SOCKS5 web proxy, which masks your IP address during P2P and VoIP connections – although this doesn’t encrypt traffic.
We also found IPVanish to be extremely safe, and free of IP or DNS leaks in our most recent tests:
IPVanish leak test results from browserleaks.com IPVanish’s leak test results when connected to its Chicago server
Logging Policy No-logs policy makes up for US jurisdiction
IPVanish doesn’t collect any user data at all, making it a no-logs VPN service.
Considering most VPN logging policies track at least server load or login information for maintenance purposes, this is what makes IPVanish a standout VPN for privacy.
In 2016, when under previous management, IPVanish was however found to be collecting logs when it handed information over to US authorities to aid in the prosecution of a user.
Since being acquired a number of times since then, IPVanish has turned things around and we have no longer concerns about its approach to user privacy.
Jurisdiction IPVanish VPN was first released in 2012 by its former US-based owner HighWinds Network Group. IPVanish has since been acquired by StackPath and in 2019 by J2 Global which are both US-based companies.
As you can see IPVanish is, and has always been, operated by companies headquartered in the US, which does have very intrusive surveillance laws and is a member of the Five-Eyes data sharing agreement.
IPVanish being based in the US is largely irrelevant though as its no-logs policy means no identifiable information is collected by the VPN provider.
Ease of Use User-friendly install with lots of advanced features
How to Install & Set Up IPVanish Screenshot of the Windows download button on the IPVanish website Beginning the installation process is as simple as clicking the button to download the relevant software from the site.
Screenshot of the progress of our IPVanish Windows download You can check the progress of the installation here, but it usually only takes a couple of minutes from start to finish.
Screenshot of the completed IPVanish download Once the software is downloaded, you'll see this screen which prompts you to run the IPVanish app.
Screenshot of IPVanish's main dashboard on its Windows app IPVanish main dashboard shows key connection info and permits server selection. We like the nice graph too.
Screenshot of IPVanish's server list in the Windows app Power users will select servers from the main dashboard rather than the server list as it's a slicker experience.
Screenshot of the server location filters in the IPVanish desktop app IPVanish server list view with filters - it's mostly pretty good but not as optimal as using the main dashboard.
Screenshot of the advanced settings in IPVanish's desktop app IPVanish is rich with advanced settings for customizing connections and it's well laid out to boot. Nice!
IPVanish’s desktop VPN apps are perfectly simple to use, even if they could do with a bit of a visual overhaul as they are starting to look a little out-dated.
The advanced privacy settings are also easy to navigate, making IPVanish suited to both VPN beginners and more experienced users.
The mobile IPVanish apps lack a few key features, such as the VPN kill switch, but they do still provide a very good, user-friendly experience.
Customer Support Helpful support with 24/7 live chat
24/7 Email support Online Resources We found IPVanish customer support agents to be friendly and helpful no matter what we asked them about the VPN service.
Thanks to a recent update, IPVanish now also has 24-hour live chat support on its website.
IPVanish also has excellent email support, which provided us with impressively well-written responses, as well as an online FAQ for straightforward solutions to the most common issues.
If for any reason IPVanish isn’t working properly, you should be able to fix it quickly by following these guides.
Pricing & Deals Well worth it for the level of service
IPVanish Coupon IPVanish logo IPVanish
Get 60% off IPVanish's 12-month plan
TestedEnds 22 Aug Get CodeED Terms IPVanish Pricing Plan IPVanish is reasonably priced and affordable. It is neither the cheapest VPN service, nor the most expensive. You can pay for IPVanish monthly or on an annual basis.
$4.87 per month on the 12-month plan is a very good price, especially as it’s 60% cheaper than the standard one-month plan, priced at $11.99.
There’s also a 3-month option for $6.75 per month.
Monthly
US$7.50/mo
Billed $7.50 for the first month Save 38% 3 Months
US$6.75/mo
Billed $20.24 for the first 3 months Save 44% 12 Months
US$4.87/mo
Billed $58.49 for the first 12 months Save 60% All plans have 7-day money-back guarantee
Payment & Refund Options The IPVanish seven-day money-back guarantee is 100% no-questions-asked and refunds your money within 10 working days.
Our only issue is with IPVanish’s iOS policy – if you sign up for an IPVanish login via the iOS Store then you don’t qualify for the money back guarantee.
IPVanish only accepts credit cards, debit cards, and PayPal.
Unfortunately neither cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin nor international options like Alipay are currently accepted.
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Post Pull Depression - Summoner Wars

Hello and welcome to Post Pull Depression, the only thread that knows best Garnet is not long haired or short haired Garnet, but the Garnet that can’t talk.
Hey, it’s the two month delayed FF9 banner! Miracles can happen! That guy who does the banner guessing posts should be fired! At least that gave me plenty of time to replay FF9 since my reviews are the singular voice of this sub and you need to know what I think so you can think the same! Too bad I initially didn’t make it too far since it plays in 30 FPS. It only took about five minutes before I was profusely vomiting from 30 FPS sickness. Totally unplayable on PC, so I booted it up on the PS1 and since it doesn’t display FPS in the bottom left corner everything was fine! I was able to complete my 4th or 5th(?) playthrough!
FF9 is one of the few games that’s actually better played when you’re an adult. The themes of mortality, purpose in life, the amazing bond between Zidane and Vivi are all lost on bratty, angsty teenagers. Plus, there’s a peeing scene! What more can you ask for? Go replay it!
Now, before this gets delayed another 2 months, let’s take a look at the units!

Black Waltz 3Black Waltz 3 Lives Matter

Black Mage: Steroids
The Black Waltz are the early game bad guys who are sent to re-kidnap Garnet.
”I exist only to kill!”
Yeah, that’s the guy we should send to get the princess back. I see no problems here!
”I brought her back… in pieces…”
Presents Garnet’s severed head to Queen Brahm
Thus ends my FF9 guro fanfic. (Note: do not google image search guro at work, or at home, or anywhere really…)
Mist: LoL
Mist - Inflict poison and paralyze (100%) to all enemies
And we all know that the best PS1 rpg with mist is… Legend of Legaia! That game had fantastic fishing in it. We need a Legend of Legaia crossover! And a Legend of the River King one too! You all got your doggo, let me have a 5* river king flopping around Magikarp style. It’s been awhile since I’ve done a list, here’s the best JRPG fishing:
I just heard that Stardew Valley has good fishing. IS THIS TRUE!? I’ve never felt like playing “knockoff” Harvest Moon, but if the fishing is great, then I’ll do it. Also, I’m looking for a good cell phone fishing game (already tried A Girl Adrift) tell me if you know one. Also, tell me how I went from Black Waltz 3 to fishing, stream of consciousness is a crazy thing.
TMR: MEH
Black Impulse: +20% MAG & +25% Fire/Ice/Thunder Resist
For when your magic tank also needs to do magic damage! Let me do a little cross-referencing here… [units that benefit from MAG] intersect [units that benefit from element resist] = []. Oh, shoot it’s that damn empty set again...

Regret: VERY HIGH

A five star max unit is a slap in the face at this point in the game… is what I want to say. But let’s be real here… if Bee Dubs 3 could go to 6* would anyone use him? No. So let’s just pretend he’s a 3* max unit because no one will level him anyways to find out.

SteinerSteiner;Gate

Comic: Relief
Every game needs its comic relief character! Oh wait that’s Quina… what the hell does Steiner do then? Or does that mean Quina is not a comic relief character? Maybe s/he is the entire point of FF9? THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
Steiner > Beatrix
When he was 23, he dueled with Alexandria's best swordsman, Beatrix, and won due to sheer luck.
Wow! I did not know that! Be grateful those of you who don’t pull Beatrix but get Steiner instead! Lucky you!
Skills: One
Oh! He has multiple skills that start with “Sword Art!”
Sword Art - Thunder Sword Physical damage (3x) to one enemy Decrease lightning resistance (50%) for 3 turns to one enemy
Sword Art - Stock Break Physical damage (2x) to all enemies Decrease DEF/SPR (40%) for 3 turns to all enemies
Sword Art - Shock Physical damage (2x) with ignore DEF (50%) to one enemy
Sweet! So I’m sure he learns W-Sword Art, right? Right? WRONG! Way to set the standard and then not follow it...
TMR: 12 HRS
Excalibur II - 130 ATK Light Element Greatsword
Excalibur TWO? This needs some ‘splaining!
Oshiete TomAto-sensei!
Excalibur II is obtained by reaching the final dungeon of the game within 12 hrs! That’s right, you have to go all the way through the game super quick, oh and FMV times count which is closer to a full hour than not!
FF9 Excalibur I Stats:
It provides 77 Attack, its element is Holy, and teaches Climhazzard.
FF9 Excalibur II Stats:
It has an attack power of 108, its element is Holy, and teaches Minus Strike, Climhazzard, and Stock Break.
Totally worth ruining your entire playthrough for!
LB: Vivi
Flare Sword - Physical damage (4.7x) with ignore DEF (50%) to one enemy
I already posted this in Lowered Expectations aka Pre-Pull Depression, but here’s Steiner summoning Vivi in his LB. Figured I’d post it for you since no one will actually put Rusty in their party.
Regret: HIGH
Fuck you Beer Steiner for making me pull for you just to get 10 more ATK on my Orlandu. The only thing that could get me to lower this is if you had fantastic Yoshitaka Amano artwork, but I don’t see something that specific ever happen-- oh… ok that’s pretty badass. Fine. MEDIUM.

EikoProject Eiko

Loli: S
Finally this game is playable now that we have BS Sakura and Eiko. Soon Kid Rydia soon… We all know why Kid Rydia is more powerful than Adult Rydia. The Power of Loli! Please read that like the Power of Greyskull. Also, I’m counting this as my 80’s song for this PPD. Also, I will probably reuse this joke when I do the actual PPD for Kid Rydia’s banner.
Skills: Bit
Crypto Performance - Heal (1000 HP, 10x) to all allies Increase evocation gauge (1-3)
Really, cryptocurrency has to appear here too? What next? A special 5* guaranteed bitcoin summon?
TMR: Flute
Angel Flute - Harp 10 ATK, 48 MAG, 98 SPR, HP +10%
What other flute does she play? No! Not that you sickos! Jesus Christ she’s like 6 yrs old! I was talking about Golem’s Flute, Lamia’s Flute and Siren’s Flute. You people should be ashamed of yourselves!
Summon: Any
Summoner's Horn - Can summon Espers equipped by other allies
This horny little girl… goddammit I said stop that! She literally has a horn! Anyways, this girl WITH A HORN can summon any party member’s esper. Freeing up Bahamut for your damage dealers, or Carbuncle reflect shenanigans etc. Why goomie also gave this to 6* Garnet the day before they released Eiko is beyond me, but thank you!

Regret: LOW

Her 7* form pushes her more toward healing: AoE revive, HP Barriers and AoE MP regen. Combined with her previous kit that makes her an extremely viable healer. Sadly no reraise though. Oh and she’s a loli, so that pretty much gets her an automatic LOW at worst.

BeatrixBeatrix Did Nothing Everything Wrong

Earth Shrine: Hero
Finally we get a unit that’s custom made for the Earth Shrine! Is there any other character in FF history with more rat killing experience? #Burmecia #WarCriminal
Eye: Patch
Is Beatrix the one who started the whole girls with eyepatches thing? I am a man of many fetishes, but I have never gotten this one. I sorta get the bandaged girl thing which occasionally overlaps with eyepatches (Rei Ayanami) and the whole forbidden power eyepatch (Megumin aka best girl), but just straight up eyepatch? No thanks.
Seiken: Densetsu?
Seiken - Shock: Physical damage (2.65x) with ignore DEF (50%) to one enemy
I just saw Seiken! SEIKEN! Are we getting the Seiken Densetsu 3 collab? No? Don’t tell me seiken is just some super common anime term that means holy sword or something… oh it does… sigh… well at least unlike Rusty she can W-Seiken, right? Right? WRONG AGAIN! As long as DW doesn’t screw up her chaining I guess she’s… oh shit it does, doesn’t it? Hey goomie, if you fix her chaining in GL on her release, guess what? People will pull for her! It’s in all our best interests if you don’t release broken units!
TMR: SAD!
Save the Queen - Greatsword +135 ATK, +25% LB Fill Rate, Resist Fire(30%)
Save the Queen, huh? How’d that work out for you Bea? I guess you and Agrias can go hang out with your failed swords. Maybe start a club? The “I Let My Queen Die And Now Have a Misnamed Sword” Club? We can work on the name...

Regret: MEDIUM (eventually LOW)

If it makes you Beatrix lovers feel better (weirdos) eventually Beatrix becomes great. Her enhancements fix her wonky chaining and her 7* form adds a ridiculous 4200% hybrid attack. Until then though just listen to this fantastic rendition of her theme. I think I may be allergic to this song as it makes my eyes water. Very weird how allergies work.

Post Pull Depression

Did I mention that FF9 is a very good game? Definitely grab the Steam port (unlike CT) and make sure to turn off the FPS counter (so you don’t get ill). I recommend playing with the boosters that max out your abilities as soon as you get the weapon for it (this gives you all Blue Magic immediately though…) and max out your gil too! Also, when you get sick of fighting just turn off random encounters! Oh, and when you’re close enough to the end just set all your character to level 99 and breeze right through it! I don’t know what impact this would have on a first playthrough, but it’s a godsend for the working man who has a stack of games to get through! Just be sure not to play too long or you’ll get cancer!
Don’t forget to check out ET’s full banner review here. Whoops wrong link, but too funny to change it. Here is the correct one. He dropped the letter ranking so now I have to read what he actually wrote before I go tell him how wrong he is in the comments. I don’t approve of this change… Hey Meme’s still posting on reddit too! Here’s his Eiko review. Most people give up by now! How long will he last? And in the eleventh hour the Beatrix review gets posted, so that too now gets the PPD bump.
And now I’ll leave--
You stand before the final dimension, and I am the darkness of eternity…
Huh? Oh shit, is that you Necron? What are you doing here?
All life bears death from birth. Life fears death, but lives only to die. It starts with anxiety. Anxiety becomes fear. Fear leads to anger... anger leads to hate... hate leads to suffering... The only cure for this fear is total destruction.
Ok, first you can’t just randomly pop up at the end of things. Second, you stole part of that from Yoda.
...Now, the theory is undeniable. All things live to perish. At last, life has uncovered this truth. Now, it is time to end this world.
Yeah.. have you tried posting on im14andthisisdeep?
I exist for one purpose... To return everything back to the zero world, where there is no life and no crystal to give life. In a world of nothing, fear does not exist. This is the world that all life desires.
Yeah, yeah, whatever. See ya next banner!
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Transcript of Open Developer Meeting in Discord - 7/19/2019

[Dev-Happy] BlondfrogsLast Friday at 3:58 PM
Hey everyone. The channel is now open for the dev meeting.
LSJI07 - MBITLast Friday at 3:58 PM
Hi
TronLast Friday at 3:59 PM
Hi all!
JerozLast Friday at 3:59 PM
:wave:
TronLast Friday at 3:59 PM
Topics: Algo stuff - x22rc, Ownership token for Restricted Assets and Assets.
JerozLast Friday at 4:00 PM
@Milo is also here from coinrequest.
MiloLast Friday at 4:00 PM
Hi :thumbsup:
Pho3nix Monk3yLast Friday at 4:00 PM
welcome, @Milo
TronLast Friday at 4:00 PM
Great.
@Milo Was there PRs for Android and iOS?
MiloLast Friday at 4:01 PM
Yes, I've made a video. Give me a second I'll share it asap.
JerozLast Friday at 4:02 PM
I missed the iOS one.
MiloLast Friday at 4:02 PM
Well its 1 video, but meant for all.
JerozLast Friday at 4:02 PM
Ah, there's an issue but no pull request (yet?)
https://github.com/RavenProject/ravenwallet-ios/issues/115
[Dev-Happy] BlondfrogsLast Friday at 4:03 PM
nice @Milo
MiloLast Friday at 4:04 PM
Can it be that I have no video post rights?
JerozLast Friday at 4:05 PM
In discord?
MiloLast Friday at 4:05 PM
yes?
[Dev-Happy] BlondfrogsLast Friday at 4:05 PM
just a link?
JerozLast Friday at 4:05 PM
Standard version has a file limit afaik
Pho3nix Monk3yLast Friday at 4:05 PM
try now
gave permissions
MiloLast Friday at 4:05 PM
it's not published yet on Youtube, since I didn't knew when it would be published in the wallets
file too big. Hold on i'll put it on youtube and set it on private
LSJI07 - MBITLast Friday at 4:06 PM
no worries ipfs it...:yum:
Pho3nix Monk3yLast Friday at 4:06 PM
ok, just send link when you can
[Dev-Happy] BlondfrogsLast Friday at 4:07 PM
So guys. We released Ravencoin v2.4.0!
JerozLast Friday at 4:08 PM
If you like the code. Go update them nodes! :smiley:
[Dev-Happy] BlondfrogsLast Friday at 4:08 PM
We are recommending that you are upgrading to it. It fixes a couple bugs in the code base inherited from bitcoin!
MiloLast Friday at 4:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t\_g7NpFXm6g&feature=youtu.be
sorry for the hold up
YouTube
Coin Request
Raven dev Gemiddeld
LSJI07 - MBITLast Friday at 4:09 PM
thanks short and sweet!!
KAwARLast Friday at 4:10 PM
Is coin request live on the android wallet?
TronLast Friday at 4:10 PM
Nice video.
It isn't in the Play Store yet.
Pho3nix Monk3yLast Friday at 4:10 PM
Well, this is the first time in a while where we have this many devs online. What questions do y'all have?
LSJI07 - MBITLast Friday at 4:11 PM
Algo questions?
Pho3nix Monk3yLast Friday at 4:11 PM
sure
KAwARLast Friday at 4:11 PM
KK
LSJI07 - MBITLast Friday at 4:12 PM
what are the proposed 22 algos in x22r? i could only find the original 16 plus 5 on x21.
TronLast Friday at 4:12 PM
Likely the 5 from x21 and find one more.
We need to make sure they're all similar in time profile.
liqdmetalLast Friday at 4:14 PM
should we bother fixing a asic-problem that we dont know exists for sure or not?
TronLast Friday at 4:14 PM
That's the 170 million dollar question.
[Dev-Happy] BlondfrogsLast Friday at 4:14 PM
I would prefer to be proactive not reactive.
imo
JerozLast Friday at 4:14 PM
same
LSJI07 - MBITLast Friday at 4:15 PM
RIPEMD160 is a golden oldie but not sure on hash speed compared to the others.
liqdmetalLast Friday at 4:15 PM
in my mind we should focus on the restricted messaging etc
Sevvy (y rvn pmp?)Last Friday at 4:15 PM
probably won't know if the action was needed until after you take the action
liqdmetalLast Friday at 4:15 PM
we are at risk of being interventionistas
acting under opacity
TronLast Friday at 4:15 PM
Needs to spit out at least 256 bit. Preferably 512 bit.
LSJI07 - MBITLast Friday at 4:15 PM
ok
TronLast Friday at 4:15 PM
If it isn't 512 bit, it'll cause some extra headache for the GPU mining software.
liqdmetalLast Friday at 4:16 PM
i seek to avoid iatrogenics
TronLast Friday at 4:16 PM
Similar to the early problems when all the algos except the first one were built for 64-bytes (512-bit) inputs.
Had to look that one up. TIL iatrogenics
JerozLast Friday at 4:17 PM
I have to google most of @liqdmetal's vocabulary :smile:
liqdmetalLast Friday at 4:17 PM
@Tron tldr: basically the unseen, unintended negative side effects of the asic "cure"
Sevvy (y rvn pmp?)Last Friday at 4:18 PM
10 dolla word
liqdmetalLast Friday at 4:19 PM
we need a really strong case to intervene in what has been created.
TronLast Friday at 4:19 PM
I agree. I'm less concerned with the technical risk than I am the potential split risk experienced multiple times by Monero.
Sevvy (y rvn pmp?)Last Friday at 4:20 PM
tron do you agree that forking the ravencoin chain presents unique risks compared to other chains that aren't hosting assets?
JerozLast Friday at 4:21 PM
Yes, if you fork, you need to figure out for each asset which one you want to support.
Sevvy (y rvn pmp?)Last Friday at 4:21 PM
yeah. and the asset issuer could have a chain preference
TronLast Friday at 4:22 PM
@Sevvy (y rvn pmp?) Sure. Although, I'd expect that the asset issuers will be honor the assets on the dominant chain. Bigger concern is the branding confusion of multiple forks. See Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin SV for an example. We know they're different, but do non-crypto folks?
Hans_SchmidtLast Friday at 4:22 PM
I thought that the take-away from the recently published analyses and discussions was that ASICs for RVN may be active, but if so then they are being not much more effective than GPUs.
Sevvy (y rvn pmp?)Last Friday at 4:22 PM
agreed on all accounts there tron
TronLast Friday at 4:23 PM
I'm not yet convinced ASICs are on the network.
KAwARLast Friday at 4:23 PM
It would be better to damage an asic builder by forking after they made major expenses. Creating for them the type of deficit that could be negated by just buying instead of mining. Asic existence should be 100 percent confirmed before fork.
liqdmetalLast Friday at 4:23 PM
170million dollar question is right.lol
TronLast Friday at 4:24 PM
I've had someone offer to connect me to the folks at Fusion Silicon.
Sevvy (y rvn pmp?)Last Friday at 4:25 PM
yes. and if they are active on the network they are not particularly good ASICs
which makes it a moot point probably
TronLast Friday at 4:26 PM
The difficult part of this problem is that by the time everyone agrees that ASICs are problematic on the network, then voting the option in is likely no longer an option.
Sevvy (y rvn pmp?)Last Friday at 4:26 PM
yes. part of me wonders if we would say "okay, the clock on the asic countdown is reset by this new algo. but now the race is on"
[Dev-Happy] BlondfrogsLast Friday at 4:26 PM
There are always risks when making a change that will fork the network. We want wait to long though, as tron said. It wont be a voting change. it will be a mandatory change at a block number.
Sevvy (y rvn pmp?)Last Friday at 4:26 PM
acknowledge the inevitable
MiloLast Friday at 4:27 PM
I had just a small question from my side. When do you think the android version would be published, and do you maybe have a time-frame for the others?
TronLast Friday at 4:27 PM
Quick poll. How would everyone here feel about a BIP9 option - separate from the new features that can be voted in?
KAwARLast Friday at 4:27 PM
Maybe voting should not be a strictly blockchain vote. A republic and a democratic voice?
[Dev-Happy] BlondfrogsLast Friday at 4:27 PM
@Milo We can try and get a beta out next week, and publish soon after that.
MiloLast Friday at 4:28 PM
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs :thumbsup::slight_smile:
[Dev-Happy] BlondfrogsLast Friday at 4:28 PM
BIP9 preemptive vote. I like it.
TronLast Friday at 4:30 PM
The advantage to a BIP9 vote is that it puts the miners and mining pools at a clear majority before activation.
LSJI07 - MBITLast Friday at 4:30 PM
Centralisation is inevitable unless we decide to resist it. ASIC's are market based and know the risks and rewards possible. A key step in resisting is sending a message. An algo change to increase asic resistance is imho a strong message. A BIP9 vote now would also be an indicator of bad actors early....
TronLast Friday at 4:30 PM
The disadvantage is that it may not pass if the will isn't there.
LSJI07 - MBITLast Friday at 4:30 PM
Before assets are on main net and cause additional issues.
KAwARLast Friday at 4:31 PM
I am not schooled in coding to have an educated voice. I only understand social problems and how it affects the economy.
SpyderDevLast Friday at 4:31 PM
All are equal on RVN
TronLast Friday at 4:31 PM
It is primarily a social problem. The tech change is less risky and is easier than the social.
LSJI07 - MBITLast Friday at 4:32 PM
All can have a share....people who want more of a share however pay for the privilege and associated risks.
KAwARLast Friday at 4:33 PM
Assets and exchange listings need to be consistent and secure.
brutoidLast Friday at 4:36 PM
I'm still not entirely clear on what the overall goal to the algo change is? Is it just to brick the supposed ASICs (unknown 45%) which could still be FPGAs as seen from the recent block analysis posted in the nest. Is the goal to never let ASICs on? Is it to brick FPGAs ultimately. Are we making Raven strictly GPU only? I'm still unclear
LSJI07 - MBITLast Friday at 4:37 PM
What about the future issue of ASICs returning after a BIP9 fork "soon"? Are all following the WP as a community? i.e asic resistant or are we prepared to change that to asic resistant for early coin emission. Ideally we should plan for the future. Could the community make a statement that no future algo changes will be required to incentivise future public asic manufacturers?
Lol. Same question @brutoid
brutoidLast Friday at 4:37 PM
Haha it is
You mind-beamed me!
[Dev-Happy] BlondfrogsLast Friday at 4:38 PM
The is up to the community.
Currently, the feel seems like the community is anti asic forever.
The main issue is getting people to upgrade.
KAwARLast Friday at 4:38 PM
Clarity is important. Otherwise we are attacking windmills like Don Quixote.
brutoidLast Friday at 4:39 PM
I'm not getting the feeling of community ASIC hate if the last few weeks of discussion are anything to go by?
Hans_SchmidtLast Friday at 4:39 PM
A unilateral non-BIP9 change at a chosen block height is a serious thing, but anti-ASIC has been part of the RVN philosophy since the whitepaper and is therefore appropriate for that purpose.
[Dev-Happy] BlondfrogsLast Friday at 4:39 PM
We can use the latest release as an example. It was a non forking release, announced for 2 weeks. and only ~30% of the network has upgraded.
TronLast Friday at 4:39 PM
@Hans_Schmidt Well said.
liqdmetalLast Friday at 4:40 PM
I'm not concerned about a "asic hardware problem" so much as I believe it more likely what we are seeing is several big fish miners (perhaps a single really big fish). For now I recommend standing pat on x16r. In the future I can see an algo upgrade fork to keep the algo up to date. If we start fighting against dedicated x16r hashing machines designed and built to secure our network we are more likely to go down in flames. The custom SHA256 computers that make the bitcoin the most secure network in existence are a big part of that security. If some party has made an asic that performs up to par or better than FPGA or GPU on x16r, that is a positive for this network, a step towards SHA256 security levels. It is too bad the community is in the dark regarding their developments. Therefore I think the community has to clarify its stance towards algorithm changes. I prefer a policy that will encourage the development of mining software, bitstreams and hardware by as many parties as possible. The imminent threat of ALGO fork screws the incentive up for developers.
JerozLast Friday at 4:40 PM
@brutoid the vocal ones are lenient towards asics, but the outcome of the 600+ votes seemed pretty clear.
brutoidLast Friday at 4:40 PM
This is my confusion
TronLast Friday at 4:41 PM
More hashes are only better if the cost goes up proportionally. Machines that do more hashes for less $ doesn't secure the network more, and trends towards centralization.
JerozLast Friday at 4:41 PM
I would argue for polling ever so often as it certainly will evolve dynamically with the state of crypto over time.
TronLast Friday at 4:41 PM
Measure security in two dimensions. Distribution, and $/hash.
liqdmetalLast Friday at 4:41 PM
and volume of hash
traysiLast Friday at 4:42 PM
45% of the hashrate going to one party is unhealthy, and standing pat on x16r just keeps that 45% where it is.
TronLast Friday at 4:42 PM
Volume doesn't matter if the cost goes down. For example, lets say software shows up that does 1000x better than the software from yesterday, and everyone moves to it. That does not add security. Even if the "difficulty" and embedded hashes took 1000x more attempts to find.
brutoidLast Friday at 4:42 PM
My issue is defintely centralization of hash and not so much what machine is doing it. I mine with both GPU and FPGA. Of course, the FPGAs are not on raven
TJayLast Friday at 4:44 PM
easy solution is just to replace a few of 16 current hash functions, without messing with x21r or whatever new shit
TronLast Friday at 4:44 PM
How do folks here feel about allowing CPUs back in the game?
traysiLast Friday at 4:44 PM
Botnets is my concern with CPUs
brutoidLast Friday at 4:44 PM
Botnets is my concern
SpyderDevLast Friday at 4:44 PM
Yes please.
LSJI07 - MBITLast Friday at 4:44 PM
the poll votes seem not very security conscious. More of day miners chasing profits. I love them bless! Imho the future is bright for raven, however these issues if not sorted out now will bite hard long term when asset are on the chain and gpu miners are long gone.....
ZaabLast Friday at 4:45 PM
How has the testing of restricted assets been on the test net?
liqdmetalLast Friday at 4:45 PM
Agreed. I dont think x16r is obsolete like that yet however
[Dev-Happy] BlondfrogsLast Friday at 4:45 PM
@Zaab not enough testing at the moment.
HedgerLast Friday at 4:45 PM
Yes, how is the Testing going?
justinjjaLast Friday at 4:45 PM
Like randomX or how are cpus going to be back in the game?
TronLast Friday at 4:45 PM
@Zaab Just getting started at testing at the surface level (RPC calls), and fixing as we go.
ZaabLast Friday at 4:45 PM
And or any updates on the review of dividend code created by the community
Lokar -=Kai=-Last Friday at 4:45 PM
if the amount of hash the unknown pool has is fixed as standarderror indicated then waiting for the community of FPGAers to get onto raven might be advantageous if the fork doesn't hurt FPGAs.
ZaabLast Friday at 4:45 PM
Can't rememeber who was on it
SpyderDevLast Friday at 4:45 PM
@Zaab But we are working on it...
Lokar -=Kai=-Last Friday at 4:46 PM
more hash for votes
JerozLast Friday at 4:46 PM
@Maldon is, @Zaab
TronLast Friday at 4:46 PM
@Zaab There are unit tests and functional tests already, but we'd like more.
[Dev-Happy] BlondfrogsLast Friday at 4:46 PM
@Zaab Dividend code is currently adding test cases for better security. Should have more update on that next meeting
KAwARLast Friday at 4:46 PM
Absolute democracy seems to resemble anarchy or at least civil war. In EVE online they have a type of community voice that get voted in by the community.
ZaabLast Friday at 4:46 PM
No worries was just curious if it was going as planned or significant issues were being found
Obviously some hiccups are expected
More testing is always better!
TronLast Friday at 4:47 PM
Who in here is up for a good civil war? :wink:
ZaabLast Friday at 4:47 PM
Tron v Bruce. Celebrity fight night with proceeds to go to the RVN dev fund
SpyderDevLast Friday at 4:48 PM
Cagefight or mudpit?
JerozLast Friday at 4:48 PM
talking about dev funds..... :wink:
Pho3nix Monk3yLast Friday at 4:49 PM
and there goes the conversation....
KAwARLast Friday at 4:49 PM
I am trying to be serious...
ZaabLast Friday at 4:49 PM
Sorry back to the ascii topic!
traysiLast Friday at 4:49 PM
@Tron What do we need in order to make progress toward a decision on the algo? Is there a plan or a roadmap of sorts to get us some certainty about what we're going to do?
LSJI07 - MBITLast Friday at 4:50 PM
Could we have 3 no BIP9 votes? No1 Friendly to asics, retain status quo. No2 change to x17r minimal changes etc, with no additional future PoW/algo upgrades. No3. Full Asic resistance x22r and see what happens...
:thonk~1:
Sounds messy....
TronLast Friday at 4:51 PM
Right now we're in research mode. We're building CNv4 so we can run some metrics. If that goes well, we can put together x22rc and see how it performs. It will likely gore everyone's ox. CPUs can play, GPUs work, but aren't dominant. ASICs VERY difficult, and FPGAs will have a tough time.
ZaabLast Friday at 4:51 PM
Yeah i feel like the results would be unreliable
TronLast Friday at 4:51 PM
Is this good, or do we lose everyone's vote?
PlayHardLast Friday at 4:52 PM
Fpga will be dead
Lokar -=Kai=-Last Friday at 4:52 PM
why isn;t a simple XOR or something on the table?
ZaabLast Friday at 4:52 PM
The multiple bip9 that is
Lokar -=Kai=-Last Friday at 4:52 PM
something asic breaking but doesn't greatly complicate ongoing efforts for FPGA being my point.
justinjjaLast Friday at 4:52 PM
How are you going to vote for x22rc?
Because if by hashrate that wouldn't pass.
traysiLast Friday at 4:52 PM
Personally I like the idea of x22rc but I'd want to investigate the botnet threat if CPUs are allowed back in.
TronLast Friday at 4:52 PM
XOR is on the table, and was listed in my Medium post. But, the social risk of chain split remains, for very little gain.
traysiLast Friday at 4:53 PM
@Lokar -=Kai=- A small change means that whoever has 45% can probably quickly adapt.
LSJI07 - MBITLast Friday at 4:53 PM
Research sounds good. x22rc could be reduce to x22r for simplicity...
TronLast Friday at 4:53 PM
x22r is a viable option. No CNv4.
LSJI07 - MBITLast Friday at 4:53 PM
Don't know how much time we have to play with though...
Lokar -=Kai=-Last Friday at 4:53 PM
if they have FPGAs yes if they have ASIC then not so much, but I guess that gets to the point, what exactly are we trying to remove from the network?
PlayHardLast Friday at 4:54 PM
Guys my name is Arsen and we designed x16r fpga on bcus. Just about to release it to the public. I am buzzdaves partner.
Cryptonight
Will kill us
But agreed
Asic is possible on x16r
And you dont need 256 core
Cores
traysiLast Friday at 4:55 PM
Hi Arsen. Are you saying CN will kill "us" meaning RVN, or meaning FPGA?
JerozLast Friday at 4:55 PM
This is what im afraid of ^ an algo change killing FPGA as I have the feeling there is a big fpga community working on this
PlayHardLast Friday at 4:55 PM
Fpgas ))
whitefire990Last Friday at 4:55 PM
I am also about to release X16R for CVP13 + BCU1525 FPGA's. I'm open to algo changes but I really don't believe in CPU mining because of botnets. Any CNv4 shifts 100% to CPU mining, even if it is only 1 of the 22 functions.
Lokar -=Kai=-Last Friday at 4:55 PM
namely FPGAs that aren;t memory equipped
like fast mem
not ddr
PlayHardLast Friday at 4:55 PM
Hbm non hbm
Cryptonight
whitefire990Last Friday at 4:56 PM
Right now with both Buzzdave/Altered Silicon and myself (Zetheron) about to release X16R for FPGA's, then the 45% miner's share will decrease to 39% or less.
PlayHardLast Friday at 4:56 PM
Will be dead for fpga
LSJI07 - MBITLast Friday at 4:56 PM
sound so x22r is fpga "friendly" ... more so than asic anyway...
PlayHardLast Friday at 4:56 PM
But a change must be planned
X16r is no way possible to avoid asics
TJayLast Friday at 4:56 PM
@LSJI07 - MBIT I would say less friendly...
whitefire990Last Friday at 4:57 PM
As I mentioned in thenest discussion, asic resistance increases with the square of the number of functions, so X21R is more asic resistant than X16R, but both are pretty resistant
PlayHardLast Friday at 4:58 PM
Yeah more algos make it heavier on ASIC
DirkDiggler (Citadel Architect)Last Friday at 4:58 PM
My interpretation of the whitepaper was that we used x16r as it was brand new (thus ASIC resistant), and that was to ensure a fair launch... We've launched... I don't like the idea of constantly forking to avoid the inevitable ASICs.
x16r was a great "experiment" before we had any exchange listings... that ship has sailed though... not sure about all these x22rs lmnop changes
KAwARLast Friday at 5:00 PM
I believe that it is easier to change the direction of a bicycle than an oil tanker. We feel more like a train. We should lay out new tracks and test on them and find benefits that are acceptable to everyone except train robbers. Then open the new train station with no contentious feelings except a silently disgruntled minority group. ???
Hans_SchmidtLast Friday at 5:01 PM
The most productive action the community can do now re ASICs is to voice support for the devs to make a non-BIP9 change at a chosen block height if/when the need is clear. That removes the pressure to act rashly to avoid voting problems.
LSJI07 - MBITLast Friday at 5:01 PM
Thats why im proposing to fork at least once to a more asic resistant algo (but FPGA "friendly/possible"), with the proviso ideally that no more PoW algo forks are require to provide future ASICs some opportunity to innovate with silicon and efficiency.
TJayLast Friday at 5:01 PM
folks should take into account, that high end FPGAs like BCU1525 on x16r can't beat even previous gen GPUs (Pascal) in terms of hash cost. so they aren't a threat to miners community
PlayHardLast Friday at 5:02 PM
A proper change
Requires proper research
eyz (Silence)Last Friday at 5:02 PM
Just so I'm clear here, we are trying to boot ASICS, don't want CPUs because of Botnets, and are GPU and FPGA friendly right?
PlayHardLast Friday at 5:02 PM
It is not a quick one day process
eyz (Silence)Last Friday at 5:02 PM
If there is a bip9 vote there needs to be a clear explanation as I feel most in the community don't understand exactly what we are trying to fix
TronLast Friday at 5:03 PM
@Hans_Schmidt I like that route. It has some game theoretics. It gives time for miners to adapt. It is only used if needed. It reduces the likelihood of ASICs dominating the network, or even being built.
[Dev-Happy] BlondfrogsLast Friday at 5:03 PM
Hey guys. great convo. We are of course looking to do the best thing for the community and miner. We are going to be signing off here though.
justinjjaLast Friday at 5:03 PM
TJay that comes down to power cost.
If your paying 4c/kw gpus all the way.
But if your a home miner in europe an fpga is your only chance
LSJI07 - MBITLast Friday at 5:03 PM
@Hans_Schmidt How do we decide the block limit and when sufficient evidence is available? I would say we have had much compelling information to date...
[Dev-Happy] BlondfrogsLast Friday at 5:03 PM
Thanks for participating. and keep up the good work :smiley:
Have a good weekend.
CAWWWW
TronLast Friday at 5:03 PM
I haven't seen any compelling evidence of ASICs - yet.
Pho3nix Monk3yLast Friday at 5:03 PM
:v:
JerozLast Friday at 5:04 PM
I suggest to continue discussion in #development and #thenest :smiley:
thanks all!
TronLast Friday at 5:04 PM
Cheers everyone!
KAwARLast Friday at 5:04 PM
Agree with Hans.
DirkDiggler (Citadel Architect)Last Friday at 5:04 PM
thanks Tron
Pho3nix Monk3yLast Friday at 5:04 PM
Ending here. continue in Nest if wanted
DirkDiggler (Citadel Architect)Last Friday at 5:04 PM
I am waiting for compelling evidence myself.
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Threadripper KVM GPU Passthru: Testers needed

TL;DR: Check update 8 at the bottom of this post for a fix if you don't care about the history of this issue.
For a while now it has been apparent that PCI GPU passthrough using VFIO-PCI and KVM on Threadripper is a bit broken.
This manifests itself in a number of ways: When starting a VM with a passthru GPU it will either crash or run extremely slowly without the GPU ever actually working inside the VM. Also, once a VM has been booted the output of lspci on the host changes from one kind of output to another. Finally the output of dmesg suggests an issue bringing the GPU up from D0 to D3 power state.
An example of this lspci before and after VM start, as well as dmesg kernel buffer output is included here for the 7800GTX:
08:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G70 [GeForce 7800 GTX] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) [ 121.409329] virbr0: port 1(vnet0) entered blocking state [ 121.409331] virbr0: port 1(vnet0) entered disabled state [ 121.409506] device vnet0 entered promiscuous mode [ 121.409872] virbr0: port 1(vnet0) entered blocking state [ 121.409874] virbr0: port 1(vnet0) entered listening state [ 122.522782] vfio-pci 0000:08:00.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0003) [ 123.613290] virbr0: port 1(vnet0) entered learning state [ 123.795760] vfio_bar_restore: 0000:08:00.0 reset recovery - restoring bars ... [ 129.534332] vfio-pci 0000:08:00.0: Refused to change power state, currently in D3 08:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G70 [GeForce 7800 GTX] [10de:0091] (rev ff) (prog-if ff) !!! Unknown header type 7f Kernel driver in use: vfio-pci 
Notice that lspci reports revision FF and can no longer read the header type correctly. Testing revealed that pretty much all graphics cards except Vega would exhibit this behavior, and indeed the output is very similar to the above.
Reddit user wendelltron and others suggested that the D0->D3 transition was to blame. After having gone through a brute-force exhaustive search of the BIOS, kernel and vfio-pci settings for power state transitions it is safe to assume that this is probably not the case since none of it helped.
AMD representative AMD_Robert suggested that only GPUs with EFI-compatible BIOS should be able to be used for passthru in an EFI environment, however, testing with a modern 1080GTX with EFI bios support failed in a similar way:
42:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1b80 (rev a1) and then 42:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1b80 (rev ff) (prog-if ff) !!! Unknown header type 7f 
Common to all the cards was that they would be unavailable in any way until the host system had been restarted. Any attempt at reading any register or configuration from the card would result in all-1 bits (or FF bytes). The bitmask used for the headers may in fact be what is causing the 7f header type (and not an actual header being read from the card). Not even physically unplugging and re-plugging the card, rescanning the PCIe bus (with /sys/bus/pci/rescan) would trigger any hotplug events or update the card info. Similarly, starting the system without the card and plugging it in would not be reflected in the PCIe bus enumeration. Some cards, once crashed, would show spurious PCIe ACS/AER errors, suggesting an issue with the PCIe controller and/or the card itself. Furthermore, the host OS would be unable to properly shut down or reboot as the kernel would hang when everything else was shut down.
A complete dissection of the vfio-pci kernel module allowed further insight into the issue. Stepping through VM initialization one line at a time (yes this took a while) it became clear that the D3 power issue may be a product of the FF register issue and that the actual instruction that kills the card may have happened earlier in the process. Specifically, the function drivers/vfio/pci/vfio_pci.c:vfio_pci_ioctl, which handles requests from userspace, has entries for VFIO_DEVICE_GET_PCI_HOT_RESET_INFO and VFIO_DEVICE_PCI_HOT_RESET and the following line of code is exactly where the cards go from active to "disconnected" states:
if (!ret) /* User has access, do the reset */ ret = slot ? pci_try_reset_slot(vdev->pdev->slot) : pci_try_reset_bus(vdev->pdev->bus); 
Commenting out this line allows the VM to boot and the GPU driver to install. Unfortunately for the nVidia cards my testing stopped here as the driver would report the well known error 43/48 for which they should be ashamed and shunned by the community. For AMD cards a R9 270 was acquired for further testing.
The reason this line is in vfio-pci is because VMs do not like getting an already initialized GPU during boot. This is a well-known problem with a number of other solutions available. By disabling the line it is neccessary to use one of the other solutions when restarting a VM. For Windows you can disable the device in Device Manager before reboot/shutdown and re-enable it again after the restart - or use login/logoff scripts to have the OS do it automatically.
Unfortunately another issue surfaced which made it clear that the VMs could only be stopped once even though they could now be rebooted many times. Once they were shut down the cards would again go into the all FF "disconnect" state. Further dissection of vfio-pci revealed another instance where an attempt to reset the slot that the GPU is in was made: in drivers/vfio/pci/vfio_pci.c:vfio_pci_try_bus_reset
if (needs_reset) ret = slot ? pci_try_reset_slot(vdev->pdev->slot) : pci_try_reset_bus(vdev->pdev->bus); 
When this line is instead skipped, a VM that has had its GPU properly disabled via Device Manager and has been properly shutdown is able to be re-launched or have another VM using the same GPU launched and works as expected.
I do not understand the underlying cause of the actual issue but the workaround seems to work with no issues except the annoyance of having to disable/re-enable the GPU from within the guest (like in ye olde days). Only speculation can be given to the real reason of this fault; the hot-reset info gathered by the ioctl may be wrong, but the ACS/AER errors suggest that the issue may be deeper in the system - perhaps the PCIe controller does not properly re-initialize the link after hot-reset just as it (or the kernel?) doesn't seem to detect hot-plug events properly even though acpihp supposedly should do that in this setup.
Here is a "screenshot" of Windows 10 running the Unigine Valley benchmark inside a VM with a Linux Mint host using KVM on Threadripper 1950x and an R9 270 passed through on an Asrock X399 Taichi with 1080GTX as host GPU:
https://imgur.com/a/0HggN
This is the culmination of many weeks of debugging. It is interesting to hear if anyone else is able to reproduce the workaround and can confirm the results. If more people can confirm this then we are one step closer to fixing the actual issue.
If you are interested in buying me a pizza, you can do so by throwing some Bitcoin in this direction: 1KToxJns2ohhX7AMTRrNtvzZJsRtwvsppx
Also, English is not my native language so feel free to ask if something was unclear or did not make any sense.
Update 1 - 2017-12-05:
Expanded search to non-gpu cards and deeper into the system. Taking memory snapshots of pcie bus for each step and comparing to expected values. Seem to have found something that may be the root cause of the issue. Working on getting documentation and creating a test to see if this is indeed the main problem and to figure out if it is a "feature" or a bug. Not allowing myself to be optimistic yet but it looks interesting, it looks fixable at multiple levels.
Update 2 - 2017-12-07:
Getting a bit closer to the real issue. The issue seems to be that KVM performs a bus reset on the secondary side of the pcie bridge above the GPU being passed through. When this happens there is an unintended side effect that the bridge changes its state somehow. It does not return in a useful configuration as you would expect and any attempt to access the GPU below it results in errors.
Manually storing the bridge 4k configuration space before the bus reset and restoring it immediately after the bus reset seems to magically bring the bridge into the expected configuration and passthru works.
The issue could probably be fixed in firmware but I'm trying to find out what part of the configuration space is fixing the issue and causing the bridge to start working again. With that information it will be possible to write a targeted patch for this quirk.
Update 3 - 2017-12-10:
Begun further isolation of what particular registers in the config space are affected unintentionally by the secondary bus reset on the bridge. This is difficult work because the changes are seemingly invisible to the kernel, they happen only in the hardware.
So far at least registers 0x19 (secondary bus number) and 0x1a (subordinate bus number) are out of sync with the values in the config space. When a bridge is in faulty mode, writing their already existing value back to them brings the bridge back into working mode.
Update 4 - 2017-12-11 ("the ugly patch"):
After looking at the config space and trying to figure out what bytes to restore from before the reset and what bytes to set to something new it became clear that this would be very difficult without knowing more about the bridge.
Instead a different strategy was followed: Ask the bridge about its current config after reset and then set its current config to what it already is; byte by byte. This brings the config space and the bridge back in sync and everything, including reset/reboot/shutdown/relaunch without scripts inside the VM, now seems to work with the cards acquired for testing. Here is the ugly patch for the brave souls who want to help test it.
Please, if you already tested the workaround: revert your changes and confirm that the bug still exists before testing this new ugly patch:
In /drivers/pci/pci.c, replace the function pci_reset_secondary_bus with this alternate version that adds the ugly patch and two variables required for it to work:
void pci_reset_secondary_bus(struct pci_dev *dev) { u16 ctrl; int i; u8 mem; pci_read_config_word(dev, PCI_BRIDGE_CONTROL, &ctrl); ctrl |= PCI_BRIDGE_CTL_BUS_RESET; pci_write_config_word(dev, PCI_BRIDGE_CONTROL, ctrl); /* * PCI spec v3.0 7.6.4.2 requires minimum Trst of 1ms. Double * this to 2ms to ensure that we meet the minimum requirement. */ msleep(2); ctrl &= ~PCI_BRIDGE_CTL_BUS_RESET; pci_write_config_word(dev, PCI_BRIDGE_CONTROL, ctrl); // The ugly patch for (i = 0; i < 4096; i++){ pci_read_config_byte(dev, i, &mem); pci_write_config_byte(dev, i, mem); } /* * Trhfa for conventional PCI is 2^25 clock cycles. * Assuming a minimum 33MHz clock this results in a 1s * delay before we can consider subordinate devices to * be re-initialized. PCIe has some ways to shorten this, * but we don't make use of them yet. */ ssleep(1); } 
The idea is to confirm that this ugly patch works and then beautify it, have it accepted into the kernel and to also deliver technical details to AMD to have it fixed in BIOS firmware.
Update 5 - 2017-12-20:
Not dead yet!
Primarily working on communicating the issue to AMD. This is slowed by the holiday season setting in. Their feedback could potentially help make the patch a lot more acceptable and a lot less ugly.
Update 6 - 2018-01-03 ("the java hack"):
AMD has gone into some kind of ninja mode and has not provided any feedback on the issue yet.
Due to popular demand a userland fix that does not require recompiling the kernel was made. It is a small program that runs as any user with read/write access to sysfs (this small guide assumes "root"). The program monitors any PCIe device that is connected to VFIO-PCI when the program starts, if the device disconnects due to the issues described in this post then the program tries to re-connect the device by rewriting the bridge configuration.
This program pokes bytes into the PCIe bus. Run this at your own risk!
Guide on how to get the program:
If you have any PCI devices using VFIO-PCI the program will output something along the lines of this:
------------------------------------------- Zen PCIe-Bridge BAConfig Recovery Tool, rev 1, 2018, HyenaCheeseHeads ------------------------------------------- Wed Jan 03 21:40:30 CET 2018: Detecting VFIO-PCI devices Wed Jan 03 21:40:30 CET 2018: Device: /sys/devices/pci0000:40/0000:40:01.3/0000:42:00.0 Wed Jan 03 21:40:30 CET 2018: Bridge: /sys/devices/pci0000:40/0000:40:01.3 Wed Jan 03 21:40:30 CET 2018: Device: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.3/0000:08:00.1 Wed Jan 03 21:40:30 CET 2018: Bridge: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.3 Wed Jan 03 21:40:30 CET 2018: Device: /sys/devices/pci0000:40/0000:40:01.3/0000:42:00.1 Wed Jan 03 21:40:30 CET 2018: Bridge: /sys/devices/pci0000:40/0000:40:01.3 Wed Jan 03 21:40:30 CET 2018: Device: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.3/0000:08:00.0 Wed Jan 03 21:40:30 CET 2018: Bridge: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.3 Wed Jan 03 21:40:30 CET 2018: Monitoring 4 device(s)... 
And upon detecting a bridge failure it will look like this:
Wed Jan 03 21:40:40 CET 2018: Lost contact with /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.3/0000:08:00.1 Wed Jan 03 21:40:40 CET 2018: Recovering 512 bytes Wed Jan 03 21:40:40 CET 2018: Bridge config write complete Wed Jan 03 21:40:40 CET 2018: Recovered bridge secondary bus Wed Jan 03 21:40:40 CET 2018: Re-acquired contact with /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.3/0000:08:00.1 
This is not a perfect solution but it is a stopgap measure that should allow people who do not like compiling kernels to experiment with passthru on Threadripper until AMD reacts in some way. Please report back your experience, I'll try to update the program if there are any issues with it.
Update 7 - 2018-07-10 ("the real BIOS fix"):
Along with the upcoming A.G.E.S.A. update aptly named "ThreadRipperPI-SP3r2 1.0.0.6" comes a very welcome change to the on-die PCIe controller firmware. Some board vendors have already released BETA BIOS updates with it and it will be generally available fairly soon it seems.
Initial tests on a Linux 4.15.0-22 kernel now show PCIe passthru working phenomenally!
With this change it should no longer be necessary to use any of the ugly hacks from previous updates of this thread, although they will be left here for archival reasons.
Update 8 - 2018-07-25 ("Solved for everyone?"):
Most board vendors are now pushing out official (non-BETA) BIOS updates with AGESA "ThreadRipperPI-SP3r2 1.1.0.0" including the proper fix for this issue. After updating you no longer need to use any of the temporary fixes from this thread. The BIOS updates comes as part of the preparations for supporting the Threadripper 2 CPUs which are due to be released in a few weeks from now.
Many boards support updating over the internet directly from BIOS, but in case you are a bit old-fashioned here are the links (please double-check that I linked you the right place before flashing):
Vendor Board Update Link
Asrock X399 Taichi Update to 2.3, then 3.1
Asrock X399M Taichi Update to 1.10 then 3.1
Asrock X399 Fatality Profesional Gaming Update to 2.1 then 3.1
Gigabyte X399 AURUS Gaming 7 r1 Update to F10
Gigabyte X399 DESIGNARE EX r1 Update to F10
Asus PRIME X399-A Possibly fixed in 0601 (TR2 support and sure fix inbound soon)
Asus X399 RoG Zenith Extreme Possibly fixed in 0601 (TR2 support and sure fix inbound soon)
Asus RoG Strix X399-E Gaming Possibly fixed in 0601 (TR2 support and sure fix inbound soon)
MSI X399 Gaming Pro Carbon AC Update to Beta BIOS 7B09v186 (TR2 update inbound soon)
MSI X399 SLI plus Update to Beta BIOS 7B09vA35 (TR2 update inbound soon)
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[META] New to PC Building? - September 2018 Edition

Intro

You've heard from all your gaming friends/family or co-workers that custom PCs are the way to go. Or maybe you've been fed up with your HP, Dell, Acer, Gateway, Lenovo, etc. pre-builts or Macs and want some more quality and value in your next PC purchase. Or maybe you haven't built a PC in a long time and want to get back into the game. Well, here's a good place to start.

Instructions

  1. Make a budget for your PC (e.g., $800, $1000, $1250, $1500, etc.).
  2. Decide what you will use your PC for.
    • For gaming, decide what games and at what resolution and FPS you want to play at.
    • For productivity, decide what software you'll need and find the recommended specs to use those apps.
    • For a bit of both, your PC build should be built on the HIGHEST specs recommended for your applications (e.g., if you only play FortNite and need CPU power for CFD simulations, use specs recommended for CFD).
    Here are some rough estimates for builds with entirely NEW parts:
    1080p 60FPS ultra-settings modern AAA gaming: ~$1,200
    1440p 60FPS high/ultra-settings modern AAA gaming: ~$1,600
    1080p 144FPS ultra-settings modern AAA gaming: $2,000
    4K 50FPS medium/high-settings modern AAA gaming: > $2,400
    It's noted that some compromises (e.g., lower settings and/or resolution) can be made to achieve the same or slightly lower gaming experience within ±15% of the above prices. It's also noted that you can still get higher FPS on older or used PCs by lowering settings and/or resolution AND/OR buying new/used parts to upgrade your system. Make a new topic about it if you're interested.
    Also note that AAA gaming is different from e-sport games like CSGO, DOTA2, FortNite, HOTS, LoL, Overwatch, R6S, etc. Those games have lower requirements and can make do with smaller budgets.
  3. Revise your budget AND/OR resolution and FPS until both are compatible. Compare this to the recommended requirements of the most demanding game on your list. For older games, you might be able to lower your budget. For others, you might have to increase your budget.
    It helps to watch gaming benchmarks on Youtube. A good example of what you're looking for is something like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eLxSOoSdjY). Take note of the resolution, settings, FPS, and the specs in the video title/description; ask yourself if the better gaming experience is worth increasing your budget OR if you're okay with lower settings and lowering your budget. Note that you won't be able to see FPS higher than 60FPS for Youtube videos; something like this would have to be seen in-person at a computer shop.
  4. Make a build on https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/. If you still have no idea how to put together parts, start here (http://www.logicalincrements.com/) to get an understanding of PC part tiers. If you want more info about part explanations and brief buying tips, see the next section below.
  5. Click on the Reddit logo button next to Markup, copy and paste the generated text (in markup mode if using new Reddit), and share your build for review!
  6. Consider which retailer to buy your parts from. Here's a table comparing different retailers: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L8uijxuoJH4mjKCjwkJbCrKprCiU8CtM15mvOXxzV1s/edit?usp=sharing
  7. Buy your parts! Use PCPP above to send you e-mail alerts on price drops or subscribe to /bapcsalescanada for deals.
    You can get parts from the following PC retailers in alphabetical order:
  8. After procuring your parts, it's time to build. Use a good Youtube tutorial like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhX0fOUYd8Q) that teach BAPC fundamentals, but always refer to your product manuals or other Youtube tutorials for part-specific instructions like CPU mounting, radiator mounting, CMOS resetting, etc. If it everything still seems overwhelming, you can always pay a computer shop or a friend/family member to build it for you.
    It might also be smart to look up some first-time building mistakes to avoid:
  9. Share your experience with us.
  10. If you have any other questions, use the search bar first. If it's not there, make a topic.

BAPC News (Last Updated - 2018/09/20)

CPU

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-9000-series-cpu-faq,37743.html
Intel 9000 CPUs (Coffee Lake Refresh) will be coming out in Q4. With the exception of i9 (8-core, 12 threads) flagship CPUs, the i3, i5, and i7 lineups are almost identical to their Intel 8000 (Coffee Lake) series, but slightly clocked faster. If you are wondering if you should upgrade to the newer CPU on the same tier (e.g., i5-8400 to i5-9400), I don't recommend that you do as you will only see marginal performance increases.

Mobo

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13135/more-details-on-intels-z390-chipset-exposed
Z370s will now be phased out for Z390s boards, which will natively support Intel 9000 CPUs (preferably i5-9600K, i7-9700K, and i9-9900K).

GPU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDrpsv0QIR0
RTX 2080 and 2080 Ti benchmarks are out; they provide ~10 and ~20 frames better than the 1080 Ti and also feature ray tracing (superior lighting and shadow effects) which is featured in only ~30 games so far (i.e., not supported a lot); effectively, they provide +25% more performance for +70% increased cost. My recommendation is NOT to buy them unless you need it for work or have lots of disposable income. GTX 1000 Pascal series are still relevant in today's gaming specs.

Part Explanations

CPU

The calculator part. More GHz is analogous to fast fingers number crunching in the calculator. More cores is analogous to having more calculators. More threads is analogous to having more filing clerks piling more work for the calculator to do. Microarchitectures (core design) is analogous to how the internal circuit inside the calculator is designed (e.g., AMD FX series are slower than Intel equivalents even with higher OC'd GHz speeds because the core design is subpar). All three are important in determining CPU speed.
In general, higher GHz is more important for gaming now whereas # cores and threads are more important for multitasking like streaming, video editing, and advanced scientific/engineering computations. Core designs from both AMD and Intel in their most recent products are very good now, but something to keep in mind.

Overclocking

The basic concept of overclocking (OCing) is to feed your CPU more power through voltage and hoping it does calculations faster. Whether your parts are good overclockers depends on the manufacturing process of your specific part and slight variations in materials and manufacturing process will result in different overclocking capability ("silicon lottery"). The downside to this is that you can void your warranties because doing this will produce excess heat that will decrease the lifespan of your parts AND that there is a trial-and-error process to finding OC settings that are stable. Unstable OC settings result in computer freezes or random shut-offs from excess heat. OCing will give you extra performance often for free or by investing in a CPU cooler to control your temperatures so that the excess heat will not decrease your parts' lifespans as much. If you don't know how to OC, don't do it.

Current Products

Intel CPUs have higher GHz than AMD CPUs, which make them better for gaming purposes. However, AMD Ryzen CPUs have more cores and threads than their Intel equivalents. The new parts are AMD Ryzen 3, 5, or 7 2000 series or Intel i3, i5, or i7 8000 series (Coffee Lake). Everything else is outdated.
If you want to overclock on an AMD system, know that you can get some moderate OC on a B350/B450 with all CPUs. X370/X470 mobos usually come with better VRMs meant for OCing 2600X, 2700, and 2700X. If you don't know how to OC, know that the -X AMD CPUs have the ability to OC themselves automatically without manually settings. For Intel systems, you cannot OC unless the CPU is an unlocked -K chip (e.g., i3-8350K, i5-8600K, i7-8700K, etc.) AND the motherboard is a Z370 mobo. In general, it is not worth getting a Z370 mobo UNLESS you are getting an i5-8600K and i7-8700K.

CPU and Mobo Compatibility

Note about Ryzen 2000 CPUs on B350 mobos: yes, you CAN pair them up since they use the same socket. You might get an error message on PCPP that says that they might not be compatible. Call the retailer and ask if the mobo you're planning on buying has a "Ryzen 2000 Series Ready" sticker on the box. This SHOULD NOT be a problem with any mobos manufactured after February 2018.
Note about Intel 9000 CPUs on B360 / Z370 mobos: same as above with Ryzen 2000 CPUs on B350 or X370 boards.

CPU Cooler (Air / Liquid)

Air or liquid cooling for your CPU. This is mostly optional unless heavy OCing on AMD Ryzen CPUs and/or on Intel -K and i7-8700 CPUs.
For more information about air and liquid cooling comparisons, see here:

Motherboard/mobo

Part that lets all the parts talk to each other. Comes in different sizes from small to big: mITX, mATX, ATX, and eATX. For most people, mATX is cost-effective and does the job perfectly. If you need more features like extra USB slots, go for an ATX. mITX is for those who want a really small form factor and are willing to pay a premium for it. eATX mobos are like ATX mobos except that they have more features and are bigger - meant for super PC enthusiasts who need the features.
If you are NOT OCing, pick whatever is cheap and meets your specs. I recommend ASUS or MSI because they have RMA centres in Canada in case it breaks whereas other parts are outside of Canada like in the US. If you are OCing, then you need to look at the quality of the VRMs because those will greatly influence the stability and lifespan of your parts.

Memory/RAM

Part that keeps Windows and your software active. Currently runs on the DDR4 platform for new builds. Go for dual channel whenever possible. Here's a breakdown of how much RAM you need:
AMD Ryzen CPUs get extra FPS for faster RAM speeds (ideally 3200MHz) in gaming when paired with powerful video cards like the GTX 1070. Intel Coffee Lake CPUs use up a max of 2667MHz for B360 mobos. Higher end Z370 mobos can support 4000 - 4333MHz RAM depending on the mobo, so make sure you shop carefully!
It's noted that RAM prices are highly inflated because of the smartphone industry and possibly artificial supply shortages. For more information: https://www.extremetech.com/computing/263031-ram-prices-roof-stuck-way

Storage

Part that store your files in the form of SSDs and HDDs.

Solid State Drives (SSDs)

SSDs are incredibly quick, but are expensive per TB; they are good for booting up Windows and for reducing loading times for gaming. For an old OEM pre-built, upgrading the PC with an SSD is the single greatest speed booster you can do to your system. For most people, you want to make sure the SSD you get is NOT DRAM-less as these SSDs do not last as long as their DRAM counterparts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybIXsrLCgdM). It is also noted that the bigger the capacity of the SSD, the faster they are. SSDs come in four forms:
The 2.5" SATA form is cheaper, but it is the old format with speeds up to 550MB/s. M.2 SATA SSDs have the same transfer speeds as 2.5" SATA SSDs since they use the SATA interface, but connect directly to the mobo without a cable. It's better for cable management to get an M.2 SATA SSD over a 2.5" SATA III SSD. M.2 PCI-e SSDs are the newest SSD format and transfer up to 4GB/s depending on the PCI-e lanes they use (e.g., 1x, 2x, 4x, etc.). They're great for moving large files (e.g., 4K video production). For more info about U.2 drives, see this post (https://www.reddit.com/bapccanada/comments/8jxfqs/meta_new_to_pc_building_may_2018_edition/dzqj5ks/). Currently more common for enterprise builds, but could see some usage in consumer builds.

Hard Disk Drives (HDDs)

HDDs are slow with transfer speeds of ~100MB/s, but are cheap per TB compared to SSDs. We are now at SATA III speeds, which have a max theoretical transfer rate of 600MB/s. They also come in 5400RPM and 7200RPM forms. 5400RPM uses slightly less power and are cheaper, but aren't as fast at dealing with a large number of small files as 7200RPM HDDs. When dealing with a small number of large files, they have roughly equivalent performance. It is noted that even a 10,000RPM HDD will still be slower than an average 2.5" SATA III SSD.

Others

SSHDs are hybrids of SSDs and HDDs. Although they seem like a good combination, it's much better in all cases to get a dedicated SSD and a dedicated HDD instead. This is because the $/speed better for SSDs and the $/TB is better for HDDs. The same can be said for Intel Optane. They both have their uses, but for most users, aren't worth it.

Overall

I recommend a 2.5" or M.2 SATA ≥ 250GB DRAM SSD and a 1TB or 2TB 7200RPM HDD configuration for most users for a balance of speed and storage capacity.

Video Card/GPU

Part that runs complex calculations in games and outputs to your monitor and is usually the most expensive part of the budget. The GPU you pick is dictated by the gaming resolution and FPS you want to play at.
In general, all video cards of the same product name have almost the same non-OC'd performance (e.g., Asus Dual-GTX1060-06G has the same performance as the EVGA 06G-P4-6163-KR SC GAMING). The different sizes and # fans DO affect GPU OCing capability, however. The most important thing here is to get an open-air video card, NOT a blower video card (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0domMRFG1Rw). The blower card is meant for upgrading pre-builts where case airflow is limited.
For cost-performance, go for the NVIDIA GTX cards because of the cryptomining industry that has inflated AMD RX cards. Bitcoin has taken a -20% hit since January's $10,000+ as of recently, but the cryptomining industry is still ongoing. Luckily, this means prices have nearly corrected itself to original MSRP in 2016.
In general:
Note that if your monitor has FreeSync technology, get an AMD card. If your monitor has G-Sync, get a NVIDIA card. Both technologies allow for smooth FPS gameplay. If you don't have either, it doesn't really matter which brand you get.
For AMD RX cards, visit https://www.pcworld.com/article/3197885/components-graphics/every-amd-radeon-rx-graphics-card-you-can-buy-for-pc-gaming.html

New NVIDIA GeForce RTX Series

New NVIDIA 2000 RTX series have been recently announced and will be carried in stores in Q3 and Q4. Until all of the products have been fully vetted and reviewed, we cannot recommend those yet as I cannot say if they are worth what NVIDIA has marketed them as. But they will be faster than their previous equivalents and will require more wattage to use. The 2070, 2080, and 2080 Ti will feature ray tracing, which is a new feature seen in modern CG movies that greatly enhances lighting and shadow effects. At this time, < 30 games will use ray tracing (https://www.pcgamer.com/21-games-will-support-nvidias-real-time-ray-tracing-here-are-demos-of-tomb-raider-and-control/). It's also noted that the 2080 Ti is the Titan XP equivalent, which is why it's so expensive. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irs8jyEmmPQ) The community's general recommendation is NOT to pre-order them until we see some reviews and benchmarks from reviewers first.
Looks like a couple of benchmarks are out. While keeping other parts equal the following results were obtained(https://videocardz.com/77983/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-and-rtx-2080-official-performance-unveiled). So the 2080 and 2080 Ti are better than last generation's 1080 Ti by ~10 and ~20 frames respectively.

Case

Part that houses your parts and protects them from its environment. Should often be the last part you choose because the selection is big enough to be compatible with any build you choose as long as the case is equal to or bigger than the mobo form factor.
Things to consider: aesthetics, case airflow, cable management, material, cooling options (radiators or # of fan spaces), # fans included, # drive bays, toolless installation, power supply shroud, GPU clearance length, window if applicable (e.g., acrylic, tempered glass), etc.
It is recommended to watch or read case reviews on Youtube to get an idea of a case's performance in your setup.

Power Supply/PSU

Part that runs your PC from the wall socket. Never go with an non-reputable/cheap brand out on these parts as low-quality parts could damage your other parts. Recommended branded PSUs are Corsair, EVGA, Seasonic, and Thermaltake, generally. For a tier list, see here (https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/631048-psu-tier-list-updated/).

Wattage

Wattage depends on the video card chosen, if you plan to OC, and/or if you plan to upgrade to a more powerful PSU in the future. Here's a rule of thumb for non-OC wattages that meet NVIDIA's recommendations:
There are also PSU wattage calculators that you can use to estimate your wattage. How much wattage you used is based on your PC parts, how much OCing you're doing, your peripherals (e.g., gaming mouse and keyboard), and how long you plan to leave your computer running, etc. It is noted that these calculators use conservative estimates, so use the outputted wattage as a baseline of how much you need. Here are the calculators (thanks, VitaminDeity).
Pick ONE calculator to use and use the recommended wattage, NOT recommended product, as a baseline of what wattage you need for your build. Note that Cooler Master and Seasonic use the exact calculator as Outervision. For more details about wattage, here are some reference videos:

Modularity

You might also see some info about modularity (non-modular, semi-modular, or fully-modular). These describe if the cables will come connected to the PSU or can be separated of your own choosing. Non-modular PSUs have ALL of the cable connections attached to the PSU with no option to remove unneeded cables. Semi-modular PSUs have separate cables for HDDs/SSDs and PCI-e connectors, but will have CPU and mobo cables attached. Modular PSUs have all of their cables separate from each other, allowing you to fully control over cable management. It is noted that with decent cooling and airflow in your case, cable management has little effect on your temperatures (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDCMMf-_ASE).

80+ Efficiency Ratings

As for ratings (80+, 80+ bronze, 80+ gold, 80+ platinum), these are the efficiencies of your PSU. Please see here for more information. If you look purely on electricity costs, the 80+ gold PSUs will be more expensive than 80+ bronze PSUs for the average Canadian user until a breakeven point of 6 years (assuming 8 hours/day usage), but often the better performance, longer warranty periods, durable build quality, and extra features like fanless cooling is worth the extra premium. In general, the rule of thumb is 80+ bronze for entry-level office PCs and 80+ gold for mid-tier or higher gaming/workstation builds. If the price difference between a 80+ bronze PSU and 80+ gold PSU is < 20%, get the 80+ gold PSU!

Warranties

Warranties should also be looked at when shopping for PSUs. In general, longer warranties also have better PSU build quality. In general, for 80+ bronze and gold PSU units from reputable brands:
Any discrepancies are based on varied wattages (i.e., higher wattages have longer warranties) or updated warranty periods. Please refer to the specific product's warranty page for the correct information. For EVGA PSUs, see here (https://www.evga.com/support/warranty/power-supplies/). For Seasonic PSUs, see here (https://seasonic.com/support#period). For Corsair PSUs, see here (https://www.corsair.com/ca/en/warranty).
For all other PSU inquiries, look up the following review sites for the PSUs you're interested in buying:
These guys are engineering experts who take apart PSUs, analyze the quality of each product, and provide an evaluation of the product. Another great website is http://www.orionpsudb.com/, which shows which PSUs are manufactured by different OEMs.

Operating System (OS)

Windows 10

The most common OS. You can download the ISO here (https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/software-download/windows10). For instructions on how to install the ISO from a USB drive, see here (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/install-windows-from-a-usb-flash-drive) or watch a video here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLfnuE1unS8). For most users, go with the 64-bit version.
If you purchase a Windows 10 retail key (i.e., you buy it from a retailer or from Microsoft directly), keep in mind that you are able to transfer it between builds. So if you're building another PC for the 2nd, 3rd, etc. time, you can reuse the key for those builds PROVIDED that you deactivate your key before installing it on your new PC. These keys are ~$120.
However, if you have an OEM key (e.g., pre-builts), that key is tied specifically to your mobo. If you ever decide to upgrade your mobo on that pre-built PC, you might have to buy a new Windows 10 license. For more information, see this post (https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/feature/windows/windows-10-oem-or-retail-3665849/). The cheaper Windows 10 keys you can find on Kinguin are OEM keys; activating and deactivating these keys may require phoning an automated Microsoft activation line. Most of these keys are legitimate and cost ~$35, although Microsoft does not intend for home users to obtain this version of it. Buyer beware.
The last type of key is a volume licensing key. They are licensed in large volumes to corporate or commercial usage. You can find lots of these keys on eBay for ~$10, but if the IT department who manages these keys audit who is using these keys or if the number of activations have exceeded the number allotted on that one key, Microsoft could block that key and invalidate your license. Buyer beware.
For more information on differentiating between all three types of keys, see this page (https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/49586-determine-if-windows-license-type-oem-retail-volume.html).
If money is tight, you can get Windows 10 from Microsoft and use a trial version of it indefinitely. However, there will be a watermark in the bottom-right of your screen until you activate your Windows key.

MacOS

If you're interested in using MacOS, look into Hackintosh builds. This will allow you to run MacOS to run on PC parts, saving you lots of money. These builds are pretty picky about part compatibility, so you might run into some headaches trying to go through with this. For more information, see the following links:

Linux

If you're interested in a free open-source OS, see the following links:
For more information, go to /linux, /linuxquestions, and /linux4noobs.

Peripherals

Monitors

Keyboards and Mice

Overall

Please note that the cost-performance builds will change daily because PC part prices change often! Some builds will have excellent cost-performance one day and then have terrible cost-performance the next. If you want to optimize cost-performance, it is your responsibility to do this if you go down this route!
Also, DO NOT PM me with PC build requests! It is in your best interests to make your own topic so you can get multiple suggestions and input from the community rather than just my own. Thanks again.

Sample Builds

Here are some sample builds that are reliable, but may not be cost-optimized builds. These builds were created on September 9, 2018; feel free to "edit this part list" and create your own builds.

Links

Helpful links to common problems below:

Contributors

Thanks to:

Housekeeping

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2019/09/09
Updates:
Sorry for the lack of updates. I recently got a new job where I work 12 hours/day for 7 days at a time out of the city. What little spare time I have is spent on grad school and the gym instead of gaming. So I've been pretty behind on the news and some might not be up-to-date as my standards would have been with less commitments. If I've made any mistakes, please understand it might take a while for me to correct them. Thank you!
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